[isalist] Re: Restore of ISA server config from 1 SBS server to another SBS server.

  • From: "Amy Babinchak" <amy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 09:10:15 -0400

ISA can be uninstalled and reinstalled including running the config in
about 20 minutes. The repair option works too.

 

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From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Thomas W Shinder
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 8:11 PM
To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [isalist] Re: Restore of ISA server config from 1 SBS server to
another SBS server.

 

Is it possible to uninstall and reinstall just the ISA firewall
component on SBS? If so, that's definitely the way to go. Is the
"repair" option available and viable in an SBS install?

 

Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
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MVP -- ISA Firewalls

 

         

        
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        From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mark Morgan
        Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 7:03 PM
        To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Subject: [isalist] Re: Restore of ISA server config from 1 SBS
server to another SBS server.

         

        I would think that the restore done by the owner would have
blown up in his face, routing tables, lat, ip addresses, networks and
network rule configurations, certs, etc would be so different the
restore should have failed. I would agree that you are not getting the
whole story. You should be able to uninstall ISA reinstall ISA and
restore from your original config, shouldn't take to long. 

                -----Original Message-----
                From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Glenn P. JOHNSTON
                Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 4:43 PM
                To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
                Subject: [isalist] Re: Restore of ISA server config from
1 sbs server to another Sbs server.

                OK.

                 

                I am now on site looking at the server, and the server
is one sick little monster.

                 

                There are 2 issues apparent at the moment, when I am
trying to restore the original saved config file I have, the progress
bar gets about 1/2 way and stops, even after 30 minutes it did not move,
even allowing for how s -- l --  o -- w the server is running, I don't
think this is going to work.

                 

                If I try to alter any of the firwall rules, add a new
one, change an existing one, delete an existing one, to change / /
delete part works, when I click apply, again the progress bar goes about
1/2 way and stops.

                 

                Does anyone have a feel for if the restore of a foreign
ISA config file should make the server run so slow, network stuff I can
understand, but could this be expected to make the server itself so slow
? I just feel that I still might not have the whole story, but I can see
anything else obvious that has been tampered with, or installed.

                 

                Similarly, the SBS wizzard also hangs after you've
answer all the questions.

                 

                Any suggestions anyone, short of uninstalling and
reinstalling ?

                 

                
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                From: Greg Mulholland
                Sent: Tue 16/May/2006 09:16
                To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
                Subject: [isalist] Re: Restore of ISA server config from
1 sbs server to another Sbs server.

                I missed the "SBS" bit so yeah then ill agree.. other
situations it would be a nightmare!!

                 

                Greg Mulholland

                 

                
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                From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Amy
Babinchak
                Sent: Tue 16/05/2006 9:03 AM
                To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
                Subject: [isalist] Re: Restore of ISA server config from
1 sbs server to another Sbs server.

                How many extra rules does an ISA server on an SBS box
need? Usually they don't have any. Sometimes 1-5. Ok, you got me. It
might take 30 minutes if you're a slow typer.

                 

                Amy

                
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                From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Greg Mulholland
                Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 7:01 PM
                To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
                Subject: [isalist] Re: Restore of ISA server config from
1 sbs server to another Sbs server.

                 

                Does that 20 mins include manually re adding the rules
Amy!

                 

                Greg Mulholland

                 

                
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                From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Amy
Babinchak
                Sent: Mon 15/05/2006 10:07 PM
                To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
                Subject: [isalist] Re: Restore of ISA server config from
1 sbs server to another Sbs server.

                Great story. You are going to make a lot of money from
this client. He'll never again do anything without calling you first. 

                 

                Use the restore. Worst comes to worst you can reinstall
ISA. It takes what, 20 minutes to install and run the CEIW?

                 

                Amy

                 

                
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                From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Glenn P. JOHNSTON
                Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 3:41 AM
                To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
                Subject: [isalist] Restore of ISA server config from 1
sbs server to another Sbs server.

                 

                 

                  

                Hi,

                 

                At the urgent request of the owner of the business, I
will be attending a site in the morning, with a parcular problem created
by the unknowing trying to do what they should not have.

                 

                It a small business, 5 users running a recently
installed SBS2003 Premium SP1 on a HP 1100 server.

                 

                In an attempt to get inbound VPN working, instead of
calling me, the business owner tried to save a few bucks and has
resotred an ISA server config backup file he obtained from one of his
friends at the chamber of comerce taken off of  his SBS server. He
friend told him, "We have that working, just restore this config file,
flick this setting and it will be working. 

                 

                Other than it exists I know nothing of the other SBS
server.

                 

                Fortunately he owned up to what he did, so I at least
have a straight up and down view of the problem, and know whats
happened.

                 

                Not too supprisingly, now he can not access the server
from the network, the LAN PC's are not even getting DHCP addresses, and
external e-mail is down, the server no longer is answering on port 25
from the internet. If he logs on to the console, says it's very very
slow. He timed it at 20 minutes before the desktop icons appeared  So it
seems pretty sick.

                 

                I've done a technet & web search and there is no mention
of such acts, it's probably not a too frequent occurance (thankfully !)

                 

                Does anyone have any experience with a similar thing ? 

                 

                Before turning up in the morning, I'd like to have some
feeling for if the server is recoverable, or if it's likely to need a
full rebuild ?

                 

                I do have a copy of the ISA config from when the server
was installed about 3 months ago, does anyone have any feeling for if
simply resotring this wil put everything straight ?

                 

                 

                Thanks in advance for any works of wisdom.

                 

                Regards

                Glenn

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