RE: Regarding Xincom, RainConnect and Other Sports Stories

  • From: "Thor \(Hammer of God\)" <thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 19:28:45 -0800

So, I'm confused... I even read the damn marketing crap. You say "a single server." Is that a single ISA 2004 server? I have to ask because you then say "if I want fault tolerance for both ISP's and boxes." What "both boxes?"

Can I have a single ISA 2004 box connected to both ISP's with RainConnect and have fault tolerance and load balancing?

t

-----
"I may disapprove of what you say,
but I will defend to the death your
right to say it."


----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas W Shinder" <tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 6:32 PM
Subject: [isalist] RE: Regarding Xincom, RainConnect and Other Sports Stories



http://www.ISAserver.org

Dude,

RainConnect can install on a single server and provide support for
multiple ISPs. You don't need to install an array, although if you want
fault tolerance for both ISPs and boxes, you'd want to do both RainWall
(NLB solution for ISA Standard Edition and service aware) and
RainConnect. You can also tweak things so that you send certain traffic
out one link preferentially. It also supports publishing using its own
DNS service (they call it an agent) so that when you publish sites
through ISA with RainConnect installed, the DNS server only returns RRs
for the live connection. It works because the TTLs are very short on the
RRs.

HTH,
Tom

Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
Site: www.isaserver.org
Blog: http://spaces.msn.com/members/drisa/
Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7
MVP -- ISA Firewalls
**Who is John Galt?**



-----Original Message-----
From: Thor (Hammer of God) [mailto:thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 8:20 PM
To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
Subject: [isalist] RE: Regarding Xincom, RainConnect and
Other Sports Stories

http://www.ISAserver.org

I think I'll just visit the site.  Or just buy a Netgear
FVX538.  Or, I
could try to have a bit of patience and wait for you to tell
me how the
Xincom works.  Ha!! Yeah, like that's gonna happen!!

t


----- "I may disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."


----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Moffat" <steve@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 6:01 PM
Subject: [isalist] RE: Regarding Xincom, RainConnect and Other Sports
Stories



http://www.ISAserver.org

 How It Works

RainWall installs directly on an existing ISA Server and clusters
multiple ISA Servers to act as a single gateway. RainWall
provides high
availability and load balancing benefits to all network interfaces.
RainWall deploys virtual IP (VIP) addresses on each network interface,
shared by all clustered nodes. Each node maintains a unique
real IP and
MAC address for each network interface, so that a heartbeat cable is
unnecessary and switch compatibility with multicasting and VLAN
environments is not an issue.

-----Original Message-----
From: Thor (Hammer of God) [mailto:thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 9:54 PM
To: ISA Mailing List
Subject: [isalist] RE: Regarding Xincom, RainConnect and Other Sports
Stories

http://www.ISAserver.org

Yeah, so what else is new.   Always a bride's maid and never a bride.

I guess you people are going to force me to read up on the Rainconnect
schpeel to see how the topology works, eh?

But first, is it one ISA box with 2 external Internet connections?  A
separate box running RainConnect in front of the ISA box?
(Front meaning
Internet-facing).  Do you have to have an array?  What is
"extortionate"

pricing?

t

-----
"I may disapprove of what you say,
but I will defend to the death your
right to say it."


----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Moffat" <steve@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 5:37 PM
Subject: [isalist] RE: Regarding Xincom, RainConnect and Other Sports
Stories



http://www.ISAserver.org

In my humble opinion you, (as usual), excited
yourself......:)...looking
at Greggo's mums home vid again?


Rainwall for ISA 2000 was unbeatable, (apart from the manual solution), reasonably easy to set up and was as reliable as the hardware that ISA was installed on...:))

Extortionate pricing though. A lot cheaper to get up off your butt and
switch the Internet connetion manually....:)

-----Original Message-----
From: Thor (Hammer of God) [mailto:thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 8:07 PM
To: ISA Mailing List
Subject: [isalist] Regarding Xincom, RainConnect and Other Sports
Stories

http://www.ISAserver.org

So, Steve got me all excited about the Xincom DPG503 Dual WAN
load-balancing, redundant WAN router with in-box L2TP VPN support.
Seems
like a great box, but most user reviews put it as a POS.
I've got high

speed cable as well as business DSL, so having a box that can
auto-switch between connections for redundancy as well as load-balance
between the two in normal operations is a real plus.

If this thing works, it would be like this:

Comcast                   PacBowl
    |                             |
    |                             |
---------------------------------
|         Xincom Dually         |
---------------------------------
                  |
              | ISA |
                  |
---------------------------------
|            ThorLAN              |
---------------------------------


As it is, I have assets split between both networks (2 wireless networks, etc) and I would love to put it all behind a single outbound connection supporting 2 ISP's. Steve is getting his DPG502 in shortly, and I'll totally trust his opinion to all the mofo's posting to New Egg and Amazon about the box, but I want a backup plan. How does the RainConnect software piece for ISA work? Is it a separate ISA box for each connection in an array? What's the topology like in an environment like that? Would I put RC on my ISA box, or a separate box with both connections in it? How much does it cost?

And are there any better "hardware" solutions for dual WAN
support from
Netgear or Cisco?  I know I could google for all this, but I would
rather get the opinions of those I know and trust here.

thx

t


----- "I may disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."



------------------------------------------------------
List Archives: http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=isalist
ISA Server Newsletter: http://www.isaserver.org/pages/newsletter.asp
ISA Server FAQ: http://www.isaserver.org/pages/larticle.asp?type=FAQ
------------------------------------------------------
Visit TechGenix.com for more information about our other sites:
http://www.techgenix.com
------------------------------------------------------
You are currently subscribed to this ISAserver.org Discussion List as:
isalist@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe visit
http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=isalist
Report abuse to listadmin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

------------------------------------------------------
List Archives: http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=isalist
ISA Server Newsletter: http://www.isaserver.org/pages/newsletter.asp
ISA Server FAQ: http://www.isaserver.org/pages/larticle.asp?type=FAQ
------------------------------------------------------
Visit TechGenix.com for more information about our other sites:
http://www.techgenix.com
------------------------------------------------------
You are currently subscribed to this ISAserver.org Discussion List as:
thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
To unsubscribe visit
http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=isalist
Report abuse to listadmin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx



------------------------------------------------------
List Archives: http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=isalist
ISA Server Newsletter: http://www.isaserver.org/pages/newsletter.asp
ISA Server FAQ: http://www.isaserver.org/pages/larticle.asp?type=FAQ
------------------------------------------------------
Visit TechGenix.com for more information about our other sites:
http://www.techgenix.com
------------------------------------------------------
You are currently subscribed to this ISAserver.org Discussion List as:
isalist@xxxxxxxxxx
To unsubscribe visit
http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=isalist
Report abuse to listadmin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

------------------------------------------------------
List Archives: http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=isalist
ISA Server Newsletter: http://www.isaserver.org/pages/newsletter.asp
ISA Server FAQ: http://www.isaserver.org/pages/larticle.asp?type=FAQ
------------------------------------------------------
Visit TechGenix.com for more information about our other sites:
http://www.techgenix.com
------------------------------------------------------
You are currently subscribed to this ISAserver.org Discussion
List as:
thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
To unsubscribe visit
http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=isalist
Report abuse to listadmin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx



------------------------------------------------------
List Archives: http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=isalist
ISA Server Newsletter: http://www.isaserver.org/pages/newsletter.asp
ISA Server FAQ: http://www.isaserver.org/pages/larticle.asp?type=FAQ
------------------------------------------------------
Visit TechGenix.com for more information about our other sites:
http://www.techgenix.com
------------------------------------------------------
You are currently subscribed to this ISAserver.org Discussion
List as: tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
To unsubscribe visit
http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=isalist
Report abuse to listadmin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx



------------------------------------------------------
List Archives: http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=isalist
ISA Server Newsletter: http://www.isaserver.org/pages/newsletter.asp
ISA Server FAQ: http://www.isaserver.org/pages/larticle.asp?type=FAQ
------------------------------------------------------
Visit TechGenix.com for more information about our other sites:
http://www.techgenix.com
------------------------------------------------------
You are currently subscribed to this ISAserver.org Discussion List as: thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
To unsubscribe visit http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=isalist
Report abuse to listadmin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx





Other related posts: