http://www.ISAserver.org ------------------------------------------------------- I was thinking of using some of the good doctor's articles and asking them how they would do the same with their POS router! OWA publishing, Activesync and RPC over HTTPS for starters! The one good thing is that they are actually willing to listen, which makes a nice change in this world so hope is not lost! ...Spence -----Original Message----- From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jim Harrison Sent: 21 May 2007 22:22 To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [isalist] Re: (No Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 13:33:12 -0700 http://www.ISAserver.org ------------------------------------------------------- This is a difficult place to play, since they're barking the standard "disprove the unicorn" argument. The best thing to do is a point-by-point comparison for existing "protection" vs. ISA functionality. This will take time, but is well worth it. If they still ride their "pretty pony", you might consider : 1. they might be right (not likely, but possible) 2. consider another job change Anyone who presents you with "everyone knows" as their main arguments isn't interested in either facts or getting their minds changed. -----Original Message----- From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Spencer Read Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 2:16 PM To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [isalist] Re: (No Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 13:33:12 -0700 http://www.ISAserver.org ------------------------------------------------------- Whilst there is a break in the proceedings, and obviously every ISA server is working perfectly ;) Can someone point me in the direction of links that will help me prove to the 'management' how secure ISA is compared to others. I found some things to do with security vulnerabilities (0 for ISA!) but would like some links to some other discussions Basically, I've recently moved jobs and would like to implement ISA instead of our current firewall (Read SOHO router!) but so far all I've heard is that 'MS is no good because it is hackable' Thanks ...Spence PS - nobody has to convince me, just looking for some backup in my arguments -----Original Message----- From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jim Harrison Sent: 21 May 2007 21:32 To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [isalist] Re: (No Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 13:33:12 -0700 http://www.ISAserver.org ------------------------------------------------------- .echoooo ..echoooo ...echoooo -----Original Message----- From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of D PIETRUSZKA USWRN INTERLINK INFRA ASST MGR Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 12:51 PM To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [isalist] echoooo Regards Diego R. 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