Bingo! -----Original Message----- From: Paul van Geldrop [mailto:paul.van.geldrop@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 10:39 AM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: Management of ISA? http://www.ISAserver.org I can see an argument spawning from the network guys in this.. 'It's a firewall, and you all know we do the firewalls, just like the IDS and stuff, so, yeah, it's ours.' Just a thought.. Paul. -----Original Message----- From: John Tolmachoff (Lists) [mailto:johnlist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: dinsdag 18 januari 2005 19:37 To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: Management of ISA? http://www.ISAserver.org Since when is a firewall not a security device. End of conversation. John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You > -----Original Message----- > From: epoole@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:epoole@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] > Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 9:54 AM > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] > Subject: [isalist] Management of ISA? > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > I know I've probably asked this before, but we've got a bit of turmoil > between our Network team and Information Security. Which Group should > manage ISA? Our Network team is not security minded, have no interest > in security and are not disciplined in any way. I know I may sound > biased, but in Information Security we have had ISA Server 2000 > running with Surf Control and no downtimes for about 2 years. It's > constantly patched, updated (we currently have ISA Server 2004 in > testing), logs reviewed, etc. Anyway, I got blindsided yesterday. > The Network team feels it is more of a network device as opposed to a > security device and want to take over administration. Our Director > has asked that we prepare something that demonstrates where ISA should > belong. So, I thought I would ask the experts. Side note - > Unfortunately, we only use ISA as an authenticating proxy and limited > firewall. 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