Hi Joseph, I think that putting the *ix host on the DMZ is fine. The SMTP relay in your config is a security setup. Just make sure to harden the box as best as you can. HTH, Tom www.isaserver.org/shinder -----Original Message----- From: cismic [mailto:cismic@xxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 12:01 AM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: Mail forwarders in DMZ Sensitivity: Confidential AD: Get Thawte's New Step-by-Step SSL Guide for MSIIS: http://www.isaserver.org/thawte/ I actually have a back to back setup which I really like. So, that's why I thought it would be OK To have them (Linux with send mail) in the dmz. I'll have to draw up some pictures and decide form what I'm gathering up. Joseph -----Original Message----- From: Steve Moffat [mailto:steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 7:50 PM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: Mail forwarders in DMZ Sensitivity: Confidential AD: Get Thawte's New Step-by-Step SSL Guide for MSIIS: http://www.isaserver.org/thawte/ As a learning experience I would say yes, but for most installations, I don't like putting anything in a DMZ. I don't see any point as ISA seems to be pretty secure on it's own (No breakthroughs on any system I've installed yet. Personally I would put it behind the isa server and use it for spam filtering rather than in the DMZ. S -----Original Message----- From: cismic [mailto:cismic@xxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 11:39 PM To: Isa Weblist Sensitivity: Confidential AD: Get Thawte's New Step-by-Step SSL Guide for MSIIS: http://www.isaserver.org/thawte/ I'll forgive him if he does! Back to the question any problem with using Linux with send mail in the dmz? Just want to expand the skill set you know. Joseph -----Original Message----- From: Steve Moffat [mailto:steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 7:34 PM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: Mail forwarders in DMZ Sensitivity: Confidential AD: Get Thawte's New Step-by-Step SSL Guide for MSIIS: http://www.isaserver.org/thawte/ Oops, you shouldn't have mentioned the marines.....Greggy will be mailing you all week......lol -----Original Message----- From: cismic [mailto:cismic@xxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 11:29 PM To: Isa Weblist Sensitivity: Confidential AD: Get Thawte's New Step-by-Step SSL Guide for MSIIS: http://www.isaserver.org/thawte/ Actually I have a Marine Corp tattoo, butter fly tattoo's belong to the Navy! <grin> Joseph -----Original Message----- From: Steve Moffat [mailto:steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 7:27 PM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: Mail forwarders in DMZ Sensitivity: Confidential AD: Get Thawte's New Step-by-Step SSL Guide for MSIIS: http://www.isaserver.org/thawte/ "I've only used MSN for mail, I don't ever use the dial up"............hah, we only have your word for that......I heard you had a butterfly tattoo.......pmsl S -----Original Message----- From: cismic [mailto:cismic@xxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 11:22 PM To: Isa Weblist Sensitivity: Confidential AD: Get Thawte's New Step-by-Step SSL Guide for MSIIS: http://www.isaserver.org/thawte/ Steve, That is truly my main goal in life now, beyond finding any gigs or projects! However, since MSN switched it's mail around and stopped pop3 usage (HTTP NOW), I don't like using them for any of my email via outlook client. You can delete mail from your own mail folder unless you use the web client, and you can't create any client side rules. Now that really sucks. So, the point of getting my mail setup is to get ride of my cismic@xxxxxxx account. Heck I have exchange 2000 and 2003 so, I need to set them up and use my own mail servers. I've only used MSN for mail, I don't ever use the dial up. Joseph -----Original Message----- From: Steve Moffat [mailto:steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 7:09 PM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: Mail forwarders in DMZ Sensitivity: Confidential AD: Get Thawte's New Step-by-Step SSL Guide for MSIIS: http://www.isaserver.org/thawte/ Forget playing with mail, finish those damn scripts.....thousands are waiting......:)) S -----Original Message----- From: cismic [mailto:cismic@xxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 10:56 PM To: Isa Weblist Sensitivity: Confidential AD: Get Thawte's New Step-by-Step SSL Guide for MSIIS: http://www.isaserver.org/thawte/ Well, I just thought it would grab more attention if I did that rather then 2003. When 3000 does roll around maybe by then I will have been cloned. Joseph -----Original Message----- From: Steve Moffat [mailto:steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 6:50 PM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: Mail forwarders in DMZ Sensitivity: Confidential AD: Get Thawte's New Step-by-Step SSL Guide for MSIIS: http://www.isaserver.org/thawte/ windows 3000, where did u get that.......:) _____ From: cismic [mailto:cismic@xxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 10:02 PM To: Isa Weblist Sensitivity: Confidential AD: Get Thawte's New Step-by-Step SSL Guide for MSIIS: http://www.isaserver.org/thawte/ Hello All, Now that w3k seems to have RPC Mail via HTTP, is it still a good idea to have mail forwarders in the DMZ for a back to back setup? I've decided to give Linux with send mail as relay machines a try. For not particular reason I guess except that I wanted to learn how to utilize send mail as relays to internal network. So, to work on this I'm going to bring my entire super computer network <grin> down tonight in about an hour or so to install this configuration. Besides, I've not been home but 80 days in the last year! Now that I have time on my hands I'm truly trying to get some obligations complete! 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