RE: ISA Server is not a Firewall !!! http://www.kbalertz.com/Feedback_832659.aspx

  • From: "Jim Harrison" <jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 10:17:16 -0700

Thank you, Thank you; no applause - just throw money...
=^p

 Jim Harrison
 MCP(NT4, W2K), A+, Network+, PCG
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 Read the help, books and articles!
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Thor" <thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, May 07, 2004 08:40
Subject: [isalist] RE: ISA Server is not a Firewall !!! 
http://www.kbalertz.com/Feedback_832659.aspx


http://www.ISAserver.org

OMG!  You made me spit coffee on my monitor!  I'm still lol... you suck!

t



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Harrison" <jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, May 07, 2004 8:35 AM
Subject: [isalist] RE: ISA Server is not a Firewall !!!
http://www.kbalertz.com/Feedback_832659.aspx


> http://www.ISAserver.org
>
> You mean that's not your thumb on the lens?
>
>  Jim Harrison
>  MCP(NT4, W2K), A+, Network+, PCG
>  http://www.microsoft.com/isaserver
>  http://isaserver.org/Jim_Harrison
>  http://isatools.org
>
>  Read the help, books and articles!
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Thor" <thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, May 07, 2004 08:04
> Subject: [isalist] RE: ISA Server is not a Firewall !!!
http://www.kbalertz.com/Feedback_832659.aspx
>
>
> http://www.ISAserver.org
>
> The little camera on my PDA *smells* like fish, but I'm not gonna tell you
> why.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jim Harrison" <jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, May 07, 2004 7:54 AM
> Subject: [isalist] RE: ISA Server is not a Firewall !!!
> http://www.kbalertz.com/Feedback_832659.aspx
>
>
> > http://www.ISAserver.org
> >
> > A good firewall must include good router functionality in the same way a
> fish must include a PDA.
> > This article and issue arises because folks choose to use a product
> outside of its design goals.
> >
> > You can scream in email all day long; it doesn't make you sound any more
> believable.
> >
> > Disabling an alert does not stop the blocking action, just the alerts
that
> get generated from it.
> > Learn to read what's written; not what you choose to make of it.
> >
> >  Jim Harrison
> >  MCP(NT4, W2K), A+, Network+, PCG
> >  http://www.microsoft.com/isaserver
> >  http://isaserver.org/Jim_Harrison
> >  http://isatools.org
> >
> >  Read the help, books and articles!
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Idan Plotnik" <idan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Friday, May 07, 2004 04:45
> > Subject: [isalist] RE: ISA Server is not a Firewall !!!
> http://www.kbalertz.com/Feedback_832659.aspx
> >
> >
> > http://www.ISAserver.org
> >
> > Hi Thomas,
> >
> > Yesterday I came back from TechEd in Israel, I believe in the way
> > Microsoft works and I am working a lot with Microsoft products, in
> > additional I am doing some works for Microsoft, but this issue is not
> > relevant to my work, I mean that this kind of Bugs must be discover
> > before the product is going in to the market and not after 2 or 3
> > years!!! Don't you agree with me? Tell me something else, do you think
> > it reasonable to disable the IP Spoof Detection option on a
> > FIREWALL???!!!!???!!!! To enable another function to work properly????
> >
> > And by the way!!! A good Firewall must include a good router
> > functions!!! It's not a separate function, When I read your line "but
> > since you've confused firewalls with routers" I laugh because it's not a
> > good way of thinking!!! There are a lot of people that thinks that
> > Firewall just blocks ports or protocols and it's not true
> >
> > Thanks and have a good day.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Friday, May 07, 2004 1:00 PM
> > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > Subject: [isalist] RE: ISA Server is not a Firewall !!!
> > http://www.kbalertz.com/Feedback_832659.aspx
> >
> > http://www.ISAserver.org
> >
> > Hi Idan,
> >
> > It's a good thing no other firewalls have any issues :-\
> >
> > This is the first time I've done this on this list, but since you've
> > confused firewalls with routers, I have to say PLONK.
> >
> > HTH,
> > Tom
> >
> > Thomas W Shinder
> > www.isaserver.org/shinder
> > ISA 2004 Beta - Get it now!
> > http://www.microsoft.com/isaserver/beta/default.asp
> > ISA Server and Beyond: http://tinyurl.com/1jq1 Configuring ISA Server:
> > http://tinyurl.com/1llp
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Idan Plotnik [mailto:idan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Friday, May 07, 2004 5:57 AM
> > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > Subject: [isalist] ISA Server is not a Firewall !!!
> > http://www.kbalertz.com/Feedback_832659.aspx
> >
> >
> > http://www.ISAserver.org
> >
> > Hi all,
> > I don't know if I need to laugh or to cry about this!!!
> > This issue closed my opinion about ISA 2000, and my opinion about ISA
> > 2000 is that its not a firewall !!!
> > Someone has sometnig to say about this ?
> > 832659 - The IP Spoof Detection feature in ISA Server 2000 may drop
> > legal packets on systems that have multiple external interfaces
> > Thanx
> >
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