RE: ISA Server is not a Firewall !!! http://www.kbalertz.com/Feedback_832659.aspx

  • From: "Jim Harrison" <jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 07:54:07 -0700

A good firewall must include good router functionality in the same way a fish 
must include a PDA.
This article and issue arises because folks choose to use a product outside of 
its design goals.

You can scream in email all day long; it doesn't make you sound any more 
believable.

Disabling an alert does not stop the blocking action, just the alerts that get 
generated from it.
Learn to read what's written; not what you choose to make of it.

 Jim Harrison
 MCP(NT4, W2K), A+, Network+, PCG
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 Read the help, books and articles!
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Idan Plotnik" <idan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, May 07, 2004 04:45
Subject: [isalist] RE: ISA Server is not a Firewall !!! 
http://www.kbalertz.com/Feedback_832659.aspx


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Hi Thomas,

Yesterday I came back from TechEd in Israel, I believe in the way
Microsoft works and I am working a lot with Microsoft products, in
additional I am doing some works for Microsoft, but this issue is not
relevant to my work, I mean that this kind of Bugs must be discover
before the product is going in to the market and not after 2 or 3
years!!! Don't you agree with me? Tell me something else, do you think
it reasonable to disable the IP Spoof Detection option on a
FIREWALL???!!!!???!!!! To enable another function to work properly????

And by the way!!! A good Firewall must include a good router
functions!!! It's not a separate function, When I read your line "but
since you've confused firewalls with routers" I laugh because it's not a
good way of thinking!!! There are a lot of people that thinks that
Firewall just blocks ports or protocols and it's not true

Thanks and have a good day.


-----Original Message-----
From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Friday, May 07, 2004 1:00 PM
To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
Subject: [isalist] RE: ISA Server is not a Firewall !!!
http://www.kbalertz.com/Feedback_832659.aspx

http://www.ISAserver.org

Hi Idan,

It's a good thing no other firewalls have any issues :-\

This is the first time I've done this on this list, but since you've
confused firewalls with routers, I have to say PLONK.

HTH,
Tom

Thomas W Shinder
www.isaserver.org/shinder
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-----Original Message-----
From: Idan Plotnik [mailto:idan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, May 07, 2004 5:57 AM
To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
Subject: [isalist] ISA Server is not a Firewall !!!
http://www.kbalertz.com/Feedback_832659.aspx


http://www.ISAserver.org

Hi all,
I don't know if I need to laugh or to cry about this!!!
This issue closed my opinion about ISA 2000, and my opinion about ISA
2000 is that its not a firewall !!!
Someone has sometnig to say about this ? 
832659 - The IP Spoof Detection feature in ISA Server 2000 may drop
legal packets on systems that have multiple external interfaces
Thanx

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