Eeeeek! Teenagers with admin access! Whenever I get asked advice about what might be ailing someone's home computer, one of the first questions I ask is if they have teenagers in the household. No surprise to me, 9 times out of 10 they say yes. I then answer "there is your problem". For some reason, teenagers just seem to "have to have" every little software add-on that they know of. Give them 20 minutes with admin access on a computer here, and I'll find AIM, Yahoo Messenger, and all sorts of similar programs installed on the computer. My personal favorite is Kazaa, what a piece of work that is... If I see the icon for that program on a computer, I'll immediately run a virus check. Just about EVERY time, I'll pull off dozens or more of Trojan horses. Why does it seem that teenagers cannot live without that program? *grumble* </RANT> -----Original Message----- From: Quillman Shawn (RBNA/CSA1) * [mailto:Shawn.Quillman@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 10:08 AM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: Firefox is a slow pig http://www.ISAserver.org All XP Home. Not that big of an issue in my professional environments because of all of the added security measures I have in place (only a few that have gotten eaten) but you get those people home and all hell breaks loose... Actually, you get these people home letting their teen-agers on the machines and all hell breaks loose. Especially the guys hitting the gaming sites. ----- Robert Bosch Corporation Technical Systems Analyst (RBNA/CSA1) Corporate Sales Reporting Systems 38000 Hills Tech Drive - Farmington Hills, MI 48331 - USA phone: 1 (248) 553-1164 fax: 1 (248) 848-6969 shawn.quillman@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.bosch.us -----Original Message----- From: Ball, Dan [mailto:DBall@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 12:44 AM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: Firefox is a slow pig http://www.ISAserver.org What OS are you running? I have thousands of kids using these computers in ways that would make you pull your hair out watching them. I have only maybe 2-3 computers per year that get messed up to the point where a "rebuild" would be necessary (I just re-image instead). Out of about 1200 computers, that is an extremely low percentage. I remember problems like that with Win98, but WinXP is awfully solid. -----Original Message----- From: Quillman Shawn (RBNA/CSA1) * [mailto:Shawn.Quillman@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 8:23 PM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: Firefox is a slow pig http://www.ISAserver.org One sole reason to switch a lot of my folks: No ActiveX support. No BullSh!+ making it in through piss-poor security configurations and eating the machine. 100% of the people I've switched have not touched a Windows disc since while previously I was rebuilding every 6-8 weeks. ----- Robert Bosch Corporation Technical Systems Analyst (RBNA/CSA1) Corporate Sales Reporting Systems 38000 Hills Tech Drive - Farmington Hills, MI 48331 - USA phone: 1 (248) 553-1164 fax: 1 (248) 848-6969 shawn.quillman@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.bosch.us