RE: Firefox is a slow pig
- From: "Amy Babinchak" <amy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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- Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 07:19:33 -0400
Get those local admin rights off the workstation. Rebuilding computers that
frequently is insane. I can't remember the last time I reloaded a workstation.
Amy
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From: Quillman Shawn (RBNA/CSA1) * [mailto:Shawn.Quillman@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 8:23 PM
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One sole reason to switch a lot of my folks: No ActiveX support. No
BullSh!+ making it in through piss-poor security configurations and
eating the machine. 100% of the people I've switched have not touched a
Windows disc since while previously I was rebuilding every 6-8 weeks.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Ball, Dan [mailto:DBall@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 5:37 PM
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Yep, four 17" monitors, at 1152x864 resolution, definitely a nice setup.
I keep trying to talk them into letting me get a LCD panel array (one
with like nine screens), but they won't buy it for me...
I used to have 10-20 windows open at a time back when I was using a
dial-up connection, just because they loaded so god-awful slow. But now
I don't have nearly as many, just the ones I'm actively using. If I
pursue a new train of thought (web research), I open a new window, and
browse from there. If there are several links on one page that I want
to review, I right-click each of them and open them in a new window.
Then, when I'm done with following that line of research, I simply close
that window. I know the ones left open are the ones I'm not done with.
Right now I have several windows open, of which four of them are IE
windows. I need to have one open for our website (for some reason they
want me to change something hourly or so...). I have another one open
on www.isaserver.org (was researching certificate information). I have
another one open on a forum I was asking for help on. And one more on
our website where I'm not logged in, and viewing anonymously. So yes,
the concept of following multiple web threads is very well known to
me...
The difference between that and tabbed browsing? Not much, I can move
the windows around a lot more, each window has its own tab on the task
bar instead of in one window... In all, not much at all is different,
in fact the "lack" of "tabbed browsing" seems appealing to me... If
there is some other aspect of it that I'm missing, please let me know.
Agreed, the alt-tab feature can be quite annoying, so I rarely use it
anymore. I find that if I'm browsing the web, I rarely need to do any
actual typing, so my hand is already on the mouse and I can click on the
tab in the task bar to switch between windows.
Pop-up blocker, yep IE has one, and it works pretty good. I see a
couple of them get by occasionally, but I've almost forgotten what a
pop-up looks like!
Block Image, that is an interesting concept, possibly quite useful.
Although, you shouldn't get all that many pop-ups to block in the first
place...
LMHOST files, I can't remember the last time I've had to edit one. In
Windows 3.11 I had to use them a lot, NT4 I used them a couple of times,
but I don't think I've had to edit one in at least five years now. I
found that anything that required a redirection like that could also be
done in the DNS server with a lot less manual labor.
It's not that I'm "against" Firefox, it's just that personally I haven't
found any good reason to switch to it. Tabbed browsing does not in the
least sound appealing, and none of the other "features" people rave
about seem like anything I'd use either.
-----Original Message-----
From: Troy Radtke [mailto:TRadtke@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 12:40 PM
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Ok, let's say I only have a one 14" monitor...... (4 monitors! Wow...)
First, I don't have 11 open tasks in the task bar. Right now other than
FF and IE, I have 6 different programs in the task bar. Add one more
and not all of them are down there. Pain the butt to ALT+Tab through 18
different things to get to the one I want or switch my hands to the
mouse just to click a window to have focus.
Second (for me) is opening new links in a new tab in the same browser
window. Ever work on more than one thing at once? Like three different
trouble tickets for completely different software packages? It's nice
to keep all the info I've found for one ticket all in one browsers
window. No flipping through 15+ windows looking for that registry hack
or that MS KB article that you found through Google because you're
working on multiple things. All nice and organized.
Third, built in pop-up blocker. It's awesome. IE has it, yes, I know.
Does IE have tabbed browsing? Nope.
Fourth, right click, block image. After doing it for a few days, banner
ads and other things like that don't show up anymore. Nice when you're
at work and sometimes not so work friendly banners sometimes pop-up on
web pages from doing web searches. And not tracking and editing LMHOST
files anymore to keep up with things....
And I use a bunch of extensions at home for things (like adding ActiveX
support for my gf so she can use all of her web game stuff *eye roll*)
and have it customized to heck and back. Do all of the extensions work
flawlessly? No. But some of them are handy to have.
-----Original Message-----
From: Ball, Dan [mailto:DBall@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 11:15 AM
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Tabbed browsing is something that I just don't understand how it is more
useful. In IE I right-click on a link, choose open in new window, and
there it is. Since I have four monitors on my computer, I move that
window to a different monitor and I can then compare documents
side-by-side. If I wanted to switch between different open windows on a
single-monitor system, there are tabs in the taskbar to click back and
forth between different pages.
So, what is the advantage of "tabbed browsing"? Other than restricting
everything to one window instead of being able to spread them out, I see
no difference than IE. Actually, it seems like more of a hindrance.
-----Original Message-----
From: Troy Radtke [mailto:TRadtke@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 11:17 AM
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I've had lots of photo editing software in the past do the same thing,
where they grab the file association and then when uninstalled, they
don't put it back to the MS default or the last program before them
(hint to any and all developers out there: a choice like that at
uninstall would be nice!)
Tabbed browsing has really changed the way I surf web pages. It took a
few days to get use to it, but now I have a hard time not using it.
It's great to be able to right click and "open in tabs" and I've got all
of the pages for all of my troubleshooting sites open, loaded, and
waiting for me to flip around to when I want them, all in one browser
window that sits nice and compact in the task bar.
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