RE: Firefox is a slow pig
- From: "Thomas W Shinder" <tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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- Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 09:39:00 -0500
Hi Raj,
Ha! You beat me to it :)
Tom
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Periyasamy, Raj [mailto:Raj.Periyasamy@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 9:32 AM
> To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> Subject: [isalist] RE: Firefox is a slow pig
>
> http://www.ISAserver.org
>
> Tom,
> In regards to your last liner; read this link. :)
>
> http://gnn.tv/headlines/3656/Man_Charged_With_Stealing_Wi_Fi_Signal
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 10:13 AM
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> Subject: [isalist] RE: Firefox is a slow pig
>
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>
> Hey Shawn,
>
> First, I've got firefox running and it does seem faster than IE now :)
>
> Second, you bring up an interesting issue, re: teenagers and
> computers.
> Its amazing that the media considers teenagers to be
> "computer geniuses"
> as a group, because they are able to install spyware,
> scumware, viruses
> and worms faster than anyone else. We have one computer that teenagers
> are allowed near in our network, its in its own DMZ, has
> access only to
> HTTP, and is subject to site blocking and the HTTP security filter. If
> they don't like it, then they can connect to any one of our neighbor's
> WAPs that are unsecured :)
>
> Tom
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>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Quillman Shawn (RBNA/CSA1) *
> > [mailto:Shawn.Quillman@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 9:08 AM
> > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > Subject: [isalist] RE: Firefox is a slow pig
> >
> > http://www.ISAserver.org
> >
> >
> > All XP Home. Not that big of an issue in my professional
> environments
> > because of all of the added security measures I have in
> place (only a
> > few that have gotten eaten) but you get those people home
> and all hell
> > breaks loose... Actually, you get these people home letting their
> > teen-agers on the machines and all hell breaks loose.
> Especially the
> > guys hitting the gaming sites.
> >
> >
> > -----
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> > Corporate Sales Reporting Systems
> > 38000 Hills Tech Drive - Farmington Hills, MI 48331 - USA
> > phone: 1 (248) 553-1164 fax: 1 (248) 848-6969
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> > http://www.bosch.us
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ball, Dan [mailto:DBall@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 12:44 AM
> > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > Subject: [isalist] RE: Firefox is a slow pig
> >
> > http://www.ISAserver.org
> >
> > What OS are you running? I have thousands of kids using these
> > computers
> > in ways that would make you pull your hair out watching
> them. I have
> > only maybe 2-3 computers per year that get messed up to the
> > point where
> > a "rebuild" would be necessary (I just re-image instead).
> > Out of about
> > 1200 computers, that is an extremely low percentage. I remember
> > problems like that with Win98, but WinXP is awfully solid.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Quillman Shawn (RBNA/CSA1) *
> > [mailto:Shawn.Quillman@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 8:23 PM
> > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > Subject: [isalist] RE: Firefox is a slow pig
> >
> > http://www.ISAserver.org
> >
> >
> > One sole reason to switch a lot of my folks: No ActiveX
> support. No
> > BullSh!+ making it in through piss-poor security configurations and
> > eating the machine. 100% of the people I've switched have
> > not touched a
> > Windows disc since while previously I was rebuilding every
> 6-8 weeks.
> >
> >
> > -----
> > Robert Bosch Corporation
> > Technical Systems Analyst (RBNA/CSA1)
> > Corporate Sales Reporting Systems
> > 38000 Hills Tech Drive - Farmington Hills, MI 48331 - USA
> > phone: 1 (248) 553-1164 fax: 1 (248) 848-6969
> > shawn.quillman@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > http://www.bosch.us
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ball, Dan [mailto:DBall@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 5:37 PM
> > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > Subject: [isalist] RE: Firefox is a slow pig
> >
> > http://www.ISAserver.org
> >
> > Yep, four 17" monitors, at 1152x864 resolution, definitely a
> > nice setup.
> > I keep trying to talk them into letting me get a LCD panel
> array (one
> > with like nine screens), but they won't buy it for me...
> >
> > I used to have 10-20 windows open at a time back when I was using a
> > dial-up connection, just because they loaded so god-awful
> > slow. But now
> > I don't have nearly as many, just the ones I'm actively using. If I
> > pursue a new train of thought (web research), I open a new
> window, and
> > browse from there. If there are several links on one page
> that I want
> > to review, I right-click each of them and open them in a new window.
> > Then, when I'm done with following that line of research, I
> > simply close
> > that window. I know the ones left open are the ones I'm not
> > done with.
> > Right now I have several windows open, of which four of them are IE
> > windows. I need to have one open for our website (for some
> > reason they
> > want me to change something hourly or so...). I have
> another one open
> > on www.isaserver.org (was researching certificate
> > information). I have
> > another one open on a forum I was asking for help on. And
> one more on
> > our website where I'm not logged in, and viewing
> anonymously. So yes,
> > the concept of following multiple web threads is very well known to
> > me...
> >
> > The difference between that and tabbed browsing? Not much,
> I can move
> > the windows around a lot more, each window has its own tab
> on the task
> > bar instead of in one window... In all, not much at all is
> different,
> > in fact the "lack" of "tabbed browsing" seems appealing to me... If
> > there is some other aspect of it that I'm missing, please
> let me know.
> >
> > Agreed, the alt-tab feature can be quite annoying, so I
> rarely use it
> > anymore. I find that if I'm browsing the web, I rarely
> need to do any
> > actual typing, so my hand is already on the mouse and I can
> > click on the
> > tab in the task bar to switch between windows.
> >
> > Pop-up blocker, yep IE has one, and it works pretty good. I see a
> > couple of them get by occasionally, but I've almost forgotten what a
> > pop-up looks like!
> >
> > Block Image, that is an interesting concept, possibly quite useful.
> > Although, you shouldn't get all that many pop-ups to block in
> > the first
> > place...
> >
> > LMHOST files, I can't remember the last time I've had to
> edit one. In
> > Windows 3.11 I had to use them a lot, NT4 I used them a
> > couple of times,
> > but I don't think I've had to edit one in at least five
> years now. I
> > found that anything that required a redirection like that
> > could also be
> > done in the DNS server with a lot less manual labor.
> >
> > It's not that I'm "against" Firefox, it's just that
> > personally I haven't
> > found any good reason to switch to it. Tabbed browsing does
> > not in the
> > least sound appealing, and none of the other "features" people rave
> > about seem like anything I'd use either.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Troy Radtke [mailto:TRadtke@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 12:40 PM
> > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > Subject: [isalist] RE: Firefox is a slow pig
> >
> > http://www.ISAserver.org
> >
> > Ok, let's say I only have a one 14" monitor...... (4
> monitors! Wow...)
> >
> > First, I don't have 11 open tasks in the task bar. Right now
> > other than
> > FF and IE, I have 6 different programs in the task bar.
> Add one more
> > and not all of them are down there. Pain the butt to ALT+Tab
> > through 18
> > different things to get to the one I want or switch my hands to the
> > mouse just to click a window to have focus.
> >
> > Second (for me) is opening new links in a new tab in the
> same browser
> > window. Ever work on more than one thing at once? Like
> > three different
> > trouble tickets for completely different software packages?
> It's nice
> > to keep all the info I've found for one ticket all in one browsers
> > window. No flipping through 15+ windows looking for that
> > registry hack
> > or that MS KB article that you found through Google because you're
> > working on multiple things. All nice and organized.
> >
> > Third, built in pop-up blocker. It's awesome. IE has it,
> > yes, I know.
> > Does IE have tabbed browsing? Nope.
> >
> > Fourth, right click, block image. After doing it for a few
> > days, banner
> > ads and other things like that don't show up anymore. Nice
> when you're
> > at work and sometimes not so work friendly banners
> sometimes pop-up on
> > web pages from doing web searches. And not tracking and
> editing LMHOST
> > files anymore to keep up with things....
> >
> > And I use a bunch of extensions at home for things (like
> > adding ActiveX
> > support for my gf so she can use all of her web game stuff
> *eye roll*)
> > and have it customized to heck and back. Do all of the
> > extensions work
> > flawlessly? No. But some of them are handy to have.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ball, Dan [mailto:DBall@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 11:15 AM
> > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > Subject: [isalist] RE: Firefox is a slow pig
> >
> >
> > http://www.ISAserver.org
> >
> > Tabbed browsing is something that I just don't understand how
> > it is more
> > useful. In IE I right-click on a link, choose open in new
> window, and
> > there it is. Since I have four monitors on my computer, I move that
> > window to a different monitor and I can then compare documents
> > side-by-side. If I wanted to switch between different open
> > windows on a
> > single-monitor system, there are tabs in the taskbar to
> click back and
> > forth between different pages.
> >
> > So, what is the advantage of "tabbed browsing"? Other than
> > restricting
> > everything to one window instead of being able to spread them
> > out, I see
> > no difference than IE. Actually, it seems like more of a hindrance.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Troy Radtke [mailto:TRadtke@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 11:17 AM
> > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > Subject: [isalist] RE: Firefox is a slow pig
> >
> > http://www.ISAserver.org
> >
> > I've had lots of photo editing software in the past do the
> same thing,
> > where they grab the file association and then when uninstalled, they
> > don't put it back to the MS default or the last program before them
> > (hint to any and all developers out there: a choice like that at
> > uninstall would be nice!)
> >
> > Tabbed browsing has really changed the way I surf web
> pages. It took a
> > few days to get use to it, but now I have a hard time not using it.
> > It's great to be able to right click and "open in tabs" and
> > I've got all
> > of the pages for all of my troubleshooting sites open, loaded, and
> > waiting for me to flip around to when I want them, all in
> one browser
> > window that sits nice and compact in the task bar.
> >
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