Yes, those would be some interesting statistics to see... Similar to this topic: http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/businesstechnology/2002182315_secu rity17.html <http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/businesstechnology/2002182315_sec urity17.html> ________________________________ From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 09:00 To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: Download details: ISA Server 2004 Standard Edition SP1 http://www.ISAserver.org Hi Dan, I didn't say it was PIX :) But I can say that its not ISA! I've done some "derived" statistics, which of course have no external validity. But I'd bet dollars to doughnuts that its either PIX or Checkpoint, based on my studies. I'll check to see if my Gartner buddies have this information from any of their studies, because it would be interesting to know if anyone ever did actual surveys on this issue. HTH, Tom www.isaserver.org/shinder <http://www.isaserver.org/shinder> Tom and Deb Shinder's Configuring ISA Server 2004 http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7 <http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7> MVP -- ISA Firewalls