Re: Botched Setup based on W3k server / ISA 2004
- From: "John T \(Lists\)" <johnlist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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- Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 02:43:16 -0800
Also Glen, there are programs that are out there that will decipher and
display the product ID and Key. You can then call Microsoft, explain the
situation some what Anonymously, and they will let you know if they are
legit installs, if they are OEM or Retail or Volume License and such. If
they are OEM or Retail, and they see that it is legit and has not be
activated more than once or so, they can help you get replacement media. If
they are not legit, more information for the company.
John T
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Hello glenn
Some, I hope good advise
1 if you are corporate and you have the licenses, there are some very good
options.
If you are licensed you have the right to buy disk kits.
Normaly if the original disk is broken ore damaged what you need to do is to
prove that you have the license
2 as tom and all the other say time is money and down time will cost.
A parallel system could help you to solve this item.
3 let the business decide what is acceptable ask about the allowed downtime
and data lost.
4 get a lawyer to make this in writing and a MD approval that they will
support you all the way, even make sure you have a good IT backup in case
something goes wrong. Make a plan and a time frame table and get it signed
on that plan, than this will be the way to go.
5 and before you start backup all systems....
I agree fully that isa is better of doing isa work on its own. And not on a
dc.
But as tom state's you could find some kb about this topic, but again, let
the business decide.
Greetz,
Mario
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From: Glenn [mailto:glenn.johnston@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 6:57 AM
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Subject: [isalist] Re: Botched Setup based on W3k server / ISA 2004
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Well I am pretty sure it's "Game Over", at least as far as I am concerned
with this particular company anyway.
I have had a meeting today with the MD, and the office manager. I produced
a "warts and all" document that details the issues in the environment,
including the physical ones like 2 of the servers sitting on the floor, no
UPS's, a single monitor for the 5 servers with no KVM, and 2 pair
telephone cable with an RJ45's on each end used as network patch cables. I
took them through it, explaining it in laymens terms as far as I could.
Understatement of the year, that they were horrified.
They seem overly concerned with the delivery schedule of their project, at
the start of the meeting the MD, emphasied, yet again, that the delivery
schedule can't be allowed to slip even by 1 day. There must be some
pretty heavy penalties in the contract if the delivery time table is
missed.
I think the prior sys admin has rattled them so much, with constant down
time, it seems, from the MD's comments going back to the easter of last
year, and now this most recent episode of new users unable to VPN in, that
they are to shit scared to touch anything, even if it is not working 100%,
as history has shown, once the prior guy touched it, it stopped working. I
found out this afternoon he also built the desktops and notebooks, so God
only known what state they are in.
So, I told them only way forward, that I was prepared to get involved with
any way, was a full rebuild of firstly the ISA, without it being a DC,
then we really should do the rest of the servers to ensure they are best
practice, and that this must include fixing up the physical environment,
to at least a minimum level.
There parting comment at the end of the meeting was "Thanks, we will be in
contact".
I am not expecting a call, at least not until it all falls down around
them in a screaming heep.
Thanks to all for your comments.
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