Ok, here it is... My big problem :-) Don't start Jim ;-) When I fire up my laptop with the PCMCIA LAN card in it and the FW client enabled, I cannot get any response from the DHCP (one ISA box). If I disable FW Client, I get an IP and network is fine. If I enable the FW Client but remove the card, start up machine, then wait till everything loads insert card I get an IP and network is OK. Anyone else have similar issues, or am I special. I have gone thru 3 different cards, all do the same to a certain degree. A Dink card was the best, it would grab an IP MOST of the time. ISA win 2k SP3, ISA SP1.. Client win 2k SP3 (pro). Anyone ? Thanks in advance.. Mark S