OK, just to conclude this one for anyone interested. A. As part of the beta testing team, I have written to Ron and suggested these refinements because I agree they definitely are important and should mirror the way JAWS behaves. B. However, it would be wrong to say of course that there is no Braille output of this kind of information. Pressing Insert+F will allow you to read the font-based details. It's not automatic, but at least there is a method of getting the information if like me you always have the speech turned off. As a side note, some of you will have heard the interview with Jonathan Mosen on the Blind Bargains web site www.blindbargains.com where he talks about the upcoming 6.1 release. If you have not, do go over there and have a listen to it. Brian Hartgen Product Development Manager T&T Consultancy Ltd Advantage House Trentham Business Quarter Stanley Mathews Way Stoke-On-Trent ST4 8GQ Tel: 01782644141 Fax: 01782 664856 Web Site, www.tandt-consultancy.com NOTICE: The information contained in this email and any attachments is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that you must not use, disclose, distribute, copy, print or rely on this e-mail's content. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and then delete the email and any attachments from your system. T&T Consultancy Ltd have made strenuous efforts to ensure that emails and any attachments generated by its staff are free from viruses. However, it cannot accept any responsibility for any viruses which are transmitted. We therefore recommend you scan all received e-mail messages. Registered in England No. 4098268 -----Original Message----- From: infotech-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:infotech-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of will lomas Sent: Monday, 7 July 2008 5:59 AM To: infotech@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [infotech] Re: pac mate displaying layout information hi it doesn't have many really. it only has cursor options like braille cursor folows active, show highlight etc On 7 Jul 2008, at 05:31, Brian Lingard wrote: > Ottawa Canada > > Dear Flor and list: > > I don't personally own a PacMate so cannot speak to what Braille > verbosity options it has. Perhaps someone with one such as > William Lomas can comment upon this. > > Brian > Brian K. Lingard > E-mail: b.lingard@xxxxxxxxxxxx > Tel: +1 (613) 247-0665 > Mobile: +1 (613) 725-6602 > New York, NY Tel: +1 (646) 797-2862 > FAX: +1 (613) 247-9998 > Skype: ve3yiab2ji15 > This message composed on Dell laptop. > > To contact the list owners, please send a message to > brian.hartgen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > or > terry.clasper@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send a message to > infotech-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > with the word > unsubscribe > in the subject line. To contact the list owners, please send a message to brian.hartgen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx or terry.clasper@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from the list, please send a message to infotech-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. To contact the list owners, please send a message to brian.hartgen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx or terry.clasper@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from the list, please send a message to infotech-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.