There are 2 issues I have with them and they are major deficiencies is that they don't work with Specctra. So I just delete them before I go to route. Unfortunately though this cause problem with DRC that have to get fixed after route, but it is better than leaving them in because there is a performance hit on spectra and it just plain screws up the route to much with them in. Cadence also screwed up the diff pair implementation of them in 15.2. You will notice on your constraint form that it clearly states area constraints are not supported with diff pairs. I can understand how that got by with new diff pair implementation, and I can deal with it as I like the new diff pair features, but I can't under stand how they have completely decided to ignore integrating the are constraints into Specctra. I mean come on its been what 10 years now since they purchased the CCT router. My 2 cents -----Original Message----- From: chris.ball@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:chris.ball@xxxxxxxxx] Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 9:26 AM To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: area constraints It's not available with the basic 'Studio' tool... is with the 'Performance' option and above. I upgraded to Performance mainly for this feature and the other constraint extras. No regrets. Works as advertised. -Chris Kevin McCowan <kmccowan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent by: cc: icu-pcb-forum-bounce@freel Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: area constraints ists.org 05/16/2005 09:19 AM Please respond to icu-pcb-forum Works great. What upgrades do you need for it? Isn't it just there? Or do I have some special higher powered version. I must admit that I don't know what features are available with what, um, versions. Area constraints make bga and other real tight scenarios much easier to accomplish. Kevin McCowan Sr. PCB Designer TSI Telsys westfeldt wrote: > Would like feedback on how well this function works. I'm considering an > upgrade. > > Patrick Westfeldt, Jr. > North Boulder Circuit Design > westfeldt_nbcd@xxxxxxxxx > 720-406-0887 > c 720-272-5822 > ----------------------------------------------------------- To subscribe/unsubscribe: Send a message to icu-pcb-forum-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with a subject of subscribe or unsubscribe To view the archives of this list please login at //www.freelists.org. Our list name is icu-pcb-forum or go to //www.freelists.org/archives/icu-pcb-forum/ Problems or Questions: Send an email to icu-pcb-forum-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Want to post a job listing ? DON'T DO IT HERE! Better yet, join our jobs listing forum. SUBSCRIBE: icu-jobs-forum-subscribe@xxxxxxxxxx POST: icu-jobs-forum@xxxxxxxxxx ----------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail message is intended only for the use of the intended recipient(s). The information contained therein may be confidential or privileged, and its disclosure or reproduction is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please return it immediately to its sender at the above address and destroy it. ----------------------------------------------------------- To subscribe/unsubscribe: Send a message to icu-pcb-forum-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with a subject of subscribe or unsubscribe To view the archives of this list please login at //www.freelists.org. Our list name is icu-pcb-forum or go to //www.freelists.org/archives/icu-pcb-forum/ Problems or Questions: Send an email to icu-pcb-forum-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Want to post a job listing ? DON'T DO IT HERE! Better yet, join our jobs listing forum. SUBSCRIBE: icu-jobs-forum-subscribe@xxxxxxxxxx POST: icu-jobs-forum@xxxxxxxxxx ----------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------- To subscribe/unsubscribe: Send a message to icu-pcb-forum-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with a subject of subscribe or unsubscribe To view the archives of this list please login at //www.freelists.org. Our list name is icu-pcb-forum or go to //www.freelists.org/archives/icu-pcb-forum/ Problems or Questions: Send an email to icu-pcb-forum-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Want to post a job listing ? DON'T DO IT HERE! Better yet, join our jobs listing forum. SUBSCRIBE: icu-jobs-forum-subscribe@xxxxxxxxxx POST: icu-jobs-forum@xxxxxxxxxx -----------------------------------------------------------