Well, I have been on 15 for about 2 weeks now. I am not impressed. The latest problem: What hidden switch do I have to throw to allow me to delete a via on one layer when it's connected on another without turning that (or those) other layer(s) on? I KNOW it's connected, let me delete the durn thing if I want without having to turn 20 layers on to do it... I do wish they would redesign the tool for designers instead of worrying so much about the occasional users who need to be protected from themselves. The amount of time I have to waste trying to circumvent "features" that are preventing me from doing my job quickly and efficiently doubles with each point release :) -- George Patrick Tektronix, Inc. Central Engineering, PCB Design Group P.O. Box 500, M/S 39-512 Beaverton, OR 97077-0001 Phone: 503-627-5272 Fax: 503-627-5587 <http://www.tektronix.com/> http://www.tektronix.com <http://www.pcb-designer.com/> http://www.pcb-designer.com It's my opinion, not Tektronix'