[icon-discuss] Re: Disk drive mode a vista; a problem

  • From: chase crispin <chase.crispin@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 10:22:38 +0000

the icon was released in December of 2006, and the Braille+ was released 
in May 2007.

Chase Crispin

On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 11:06:00 -0800, Paul Henrichsen wrote:


>Hi, Richard. Yes. I agree this device will outstrip other devices.
>
>I guess am just frustrated as a new user.
>
>Each time I try something new, I come up with little problems like when
>reading through an email message or not being able to back up properly 
>with
>the media player in a pod cast.
>
>One of the things I was looking forward to was synchronizing my 
>contacts.
>Right now, I don't do much with my planner, but who knows, in the 
>future.
>
>But I did want to  have my contacts on the Icon.
>
>I also thought it would be neat to put a bunch of my albums on the unit. 
>I
>haven't even tried the music player as of yet.
>
>Perhaps I'll have to put batches of music onto a mini sd card and 
>transfer
>them into the music folder that way.
>
>Lastly, I thought the icon was around two years old. Was it introduced 
>at
>CSUN last march or the year before? I don't remember.
>
>Guess I'll just have to be more patient<grin>.
>
>
>
>
>
>Paul Henrichsen
>
>paulh52@xxxxxxxxxxx
>
>Kurzweil 1000 Technical Support Engineer
>
>(800) 894-5374
>
>Press 5 then 2
>
>or: (888) 995-9905
>
>
>
>From: icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>[mailto:icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
>Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 5:23 AM
>To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Disk drive mode a vista; a problem
>
>
>
>Hi Paul,
>
>Before you got on the list, this was a point of discussion among those 
>who
>want to use the Braille Plus for work/personal appointments.
>
>I do think synchronizing the Outlook Contacts work OK, but I would just 
>be
>sure you have a back up.
>
>However, until they fix it, don't even think of synchronizing your 
>calendar
>with Outlook.  That is one that can end up deleting appointments from
>Outlook instead of just transferring them to the Braille Plus.
>
>
>
>Of course, if you cannot get disk drive mode to work, synchronizing is 
>dead
>for you anyway.
>
>
>
>You may try re-installing the USB drivers.  
>
>
>
>Otherwise, it may be a good idea to call APH and see if they have other
>suggestions.  I will also double check on my work machine which is 
>running
>Vista.
>
>
>
>I know Larry Skutchan hopes to have the synchronization issues worked 
>out by
>Summer, if not sooner.  I, like you and many others, hope for sooner.  
>
>
>
>Remember, this is a very new device; and for me, in spite of some of the
>frustrations, I think it will end up outstripping the other portable
>blindness devices.
>
>
>
>Richard
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>_____  
>
>From: icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>[mailto:icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Paul Henrichsen
>Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 11:04 PM
>To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Disk drive mode a vista; a problem
>
>
>
>Hi, Richard. The problem is that you have to wait for several minutes,
>possibly five or more. I had my sighted wife watch. We never did get it 
>to
>work. The bar goes across the screen extremely slowly.
>
>You could go away and have dinner and it might be in the folder when you 
>got
>back.
>
>It works just fine in xp on her laptop, but not on my vista machine.
>
>Since this is such an important part of the icon, I was somewhat
>disappointed. And now to hear you say that the sync utility is not up to
>snuff and that calendaring doesn't work?
>
>And that contacts might or might not work?
>
>I would have thought that this would have been a real priority for level
>star to make sure that these features worked under vista.
>
>To me, this seems even more important than nls or audible support.
>
>Regarding file sharing, from what I have heard, it looks like you'll be 
>able
>to share things in your music folder and in a public folder.
>
>But I'd hate to put in all my contacts by hand
>
>And I can't believe that no one on the beta team was using vista and 
>didn't
>catch this.
>
>
>
>Paul Henrichsen
>
>paulh52@xxxxxxxxxxx
>
>Kurzweil 1000 Technical Support Engineer
>
>(800) 894-5374
>
>Press 5 then 2
>
>or: (888) 995-9905
>
>
>
>From: icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>[mailto:icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
>Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 8:54 PM
>To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Disk drive mode a vista; a problem
>
>
>
>Hi Paul,
>
>I've used it under Vista.  The key is to wait long enough for the 
>computer
>to see the Braille Plus.
>
>Also, the sync program isn't truly up to snuff as yet.  Make sure you 
>have
>back ups of your Contacts, though Contacts do seem to work well.  
>However,
>the Calendar does not work at all well and you may lose appointments if 
>you
>try syncing the calendar.  I have not used it for music.
>
>You may want to just manually copy the music over once disk drive mode 
>works
>for you.
>
>
>
>I'm looking forward to the new wireless networking that will be in the 
>next
>release to do much copying of files back and forth.
>
>
>
>Richard
>
>
>
>
>
>_____  
>
>From: icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>[mailto:icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Paul Henrichsen
>Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 5:57 PM
>To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [icon-discuss] Disk drive mode a vista; a problem
>
>
>
>Hi. I decided to try disk drive mode so I could sync my contacts and
>transfer some music. Unfortunately, under windows vista, coming up in 
>disk
>drive mode is problematic at best.
>
>It is very sluggish with windows explorer locking up easily.
>
>I have tried it 3-4 times so far without success. If I do get a listing 
>of
>directories, it might lock up when moving down the list. If I press 
>enter on
>the music folder, nothing happens at all.
>
>I remember the same problem with the VR stream until they came out with
>their update.
>
>Has anyone tested disk drive mode under vista?
>
>
>
>
>
>Paul Henrichsen
>
>paulh52@xxxxxxxxxxx
>
>Kurzweil 1000 Technical Support Engineer
>
>(800) 894-5374
>
>Press 5 then 2
>
>or: (888) 995-9905
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>Hi, Richard. Yes. I agree this device
>will outstrip other devices.  
>I guess am just frustrated as a
>new user.  
>Each time I try something new, I
>come up with little problems like when reading through an email message 
>or not
>being able to back up properly with the media player in a pod cast.  
>One of the things I was looking
>forward to was synchronizing my contacts. Right now, I dont do much with
>my planner, but who knows, in the future.  
>But I did want to  have my
>contacts on the Icon.  
>I also thought it would be neat
>to put a bunch of my albums on the unit. I havent even tried the music
>player as of yet.  
>Perhaps Ill have to put batches
>of music onto a mini sd card and transfer them into the music folder 
>that way.  
>Lastly, I thought the icon was
>around two years old. Was it introduced at CSUN last march or the year 
>before?
>I dont remember.  
>Guess Ill just have to be
>more patient<grin>.  
>
>
>Paul Henrichsen  
>paulh52@xxxxxxxxxxx  
>Kurzweil 1000 Technical Support
>Engineer  
>(800) 894-5374  
>Press 5 then 2  
>or: (888) 995-9905   
>
>From: 
>icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>[mailto:icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]  On
>Behalf Of  Richard Turner  Sent:  Tuesday, February 19, 2008 5:23 AM  
>To:  icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx  Subject:  [icon-discuss] Re: Disk drive 
>mode a vista; a problem    
>
>Hi Paul,  
>Before you got on the list, this was a point of discussion among
>those who want to use the Braille Plus for work/personal appointments.  
>I do think synchronizing the Outlook Contacts work OK, but I would
>just be sure you have a back up.  
>However, until they fix it, don't even think of synchronizing your
>calendar with Outlook.  That is one that can end up deleting 
>appointments
>from Outlook instead of just transferring them to the Braille Plus.  
>
>Of course, if you cannot get disk drive mode to work, synchronizing
>is dead for you anyway.  
>
>You may try re-installing the USB drivers.    
>
>Otherwise, it may be a good idea to call APH and see if they have
>other suggestions.  I will also double check on my work machine which is
>running Vista.  
>
>I know Larry Skutchan hopes to have the synchronization issues
>worked out by Summer, if not sooner.  I, like you and many others, hope
>for sooner.    
>
>Remember, this is a very new device; and for me, in spite of some
>of the frustrations, I think it will end up outstripping the other 
>portable
>blindness devices.  
>
>Richard  
>
>
>
>
>
>
>From: 
>icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>[mailto:icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]  On
>Behalf Of  Paul Henrichsen  Sent:  Monday, February 18, 2008 11:04 PM  
>To:  icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx  Subject:  [icon-discuss] Re: Disk drive 
>mode a vista; a problem   
>
>Hi, Richard. The problem is that
>you have to wait for several minutes, possibly five or more. I had my 
>sighted
>wife watch. We never did get it to work. The bar goes across the screen
>extremely slowly.  
>You could go away and have
>dinner and it might be in the folder when you got back.  
>It works just fine in xp on her
>laptop, but not on my vista machine.  
>Since this is such an important
>part of the icon, I was somewhat disappointed. And now to hear you say 
>that the
>sync utility is not up to snuff and that calendaring doesnt work?  
>And that contacts might or might
>not work?  
>I would have thought that this
>would have been a real priority for level star to make sure that these 
>features
>worked under vista.  
>To me, this seems even more
>important than nls or audible support.  
>Regarding file sharing, from
>what I have heard, it looks like youll be able to share things in your
>music folder and in a public folder.  
>But Id hate to put in all
>my contacts by hand  
>And I cant believe that
>no one on the beta team was using vista and didnt catch this.  
>
>Paul Henrichsen  
>paulh52@xxxxxxxxxxx  
>Kurzweil 1000 Technical Support
>Engineer  
>(800) 894-5374  
>Press 5 then 2  
>or: (888) 995-9905   
>
>From: 
>icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>[mailto:icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]  On
>Behalf Of  Richard Turner  Sent:  Monday, February 18, 2008 8:54 PM  To: 
> icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx  Subject:  [icon-discuss] Re: Disk drive 
>mode a vista; a problem    
>
>Hi Paul,  
>I've used it under Vista.  The key is to wait long enough for
>the computer to see the Braille Plus.  
>Also, the sync program isn't truly up to snuff as yet.  Make
>sure you have back ups of your Contacts, though Contacts do seem to work 
>well.
>However, the Calendar does not work at all well and you may lose
>appointments if you try syncing the calendar.  I have not used it for
>music.  
>You may want to just manually copy the music over once disk drive
>mode works for you.  
>
>I'm looking forward to the new wireless networking that will be in
>the next release to do much copying of files back and forth.  
>
>Richard  
>
>
>From: 
>icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>[mailto:icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]  On
>Behalf Of  Paul Henrichsen  Sent:  Monday, February 18, 2008 5:57 PM  
>To:  icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx  Subject:  [icon-discuss] Disk drive 
>mode a vista; a problem   
>
>Hi. I decided to try disk drive mode so I could sync my
>contacts and transfer some music. Unfortunately, under windows vista, 
>coming up
>in disk drive mode is problematic at best.  
>It is very sluggish with windows explorer locking up easily.  
>I have tried it 3-4 times so far without success. If I do
>get a listing of directories, it might lock up when moving down the 
>list. If I
>press enter on the music folder, nothing happens at all.  
>I remember the same problem with the VR stream until they
>came out with their update.  
>Has anyone tested disk drive mode under vista?  
>
>
>Paul Henrichsen  
>paulh52@xxxxxxxxxxx  
>Kurzweil 1000 Technical Support Engineer  
>(800) 894-5374  
>Press 5 then 2  
>or: (888) 995-9905  
>
>
>__________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus 
>signature
>database 2884 (20080218) __________  
>The message was checked by ESET Smart Security.   http://www.eset.com  
>
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>signature
>database 2884 (20080218) __________  
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