the icon was released in December of 2006, and the Braille+ was released in May 2007. Chase Crispin On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 11:06:00 -0800, Paul Henrichsen wrote: >Hi, Richard. Yes. I agree this device will outstrip other devices. > >I guess am just frustrated as a new user. > >Each time I try something new, I come up with little problems like when >reading through an email message or not being able to back up properly >with >the media player in a pod cast. > >One of the things I was looking forward to was synchronizing my >contacts. >Right now, I don't do much with my planner, but who knows, in the >future. > >But I did want to have my contacts on the Icon. > >I also thought it would be neat to put a bunch of my albums on the unit. >I >haven't even tried the music player as of yet. > >Perhaps I'll have to put batches of music onto a mini sd card and >transfer >them into the music folder that way. > >Lastly, I thought the icon was around two years old. Was it introduced >at >CSUN last march or the year before? I don't remember. > >Guess I'll just have to be more patient<grin>. > > > > > >Paul Henrichsen > >paulh52@xxxxxxxxxxx > >Kurzweil 1000 Technical Support Engineer > >(800) 894-5374 > >Press 5 then 2 > >or: (888) 995-9905 > > > >From: icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >[mailto:icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Richard Turner >Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 5:23 AM >To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Disk drive mode a vista; a problem > > > >Hi Paul, > >Before you got on the list, this was a point of discussion among those >who >want to use the Braille Plus for work/personal appointments. > >I do think synchronizing the Outlook Contacts work OK, but I would just >be >sure you have a back up. > >However, until they fix it, don't even think of synchronizing your >calendar >with Outlook. That is one that can end up deleting appointments from >Outlook instead of just transferring them to the Braille Plus. > > > >Of course, if you cannot get disk drive mode to work, synchronizing is >dead >for you anyway. > > > >You may try re-installing the USB drivers. > > > >Otherwise, it may be a good idea to call APH and see if they have other >suggestions. I will also double check on my work machine which is >running >Vista. > > > >I know Larry Skutchan hopes to have the synchronization issues worked >out by >Summer, if not sooner. I, like you and many others, hope for sooner. > > > >Remember, this is a very new device; and for me, in spite of some of the >frustrations, I think it will end up outstripping the other portable >blindness devices. > > > >Richard > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_____ > >From: icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >[mailto:icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Paul Henrichsen >Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 11:04 PM >To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Disk drive mode a vista; a problem > > > >Hi, Richard. The problem is that you have to wait for several minutes, >possibly five or more. I had my sighted wife watch. We never did get it >to >work. The bar goes across the screen extremely slowly. > >You could go away and have dinner and it might be in the folder when you >got >back. > >It works just fine in xp on her laptop, but not on my vista machine. > >Since this is such an important part of the icon, I was somewhat >disappointed. And now to hear you say that the sync utility is not up to >snuff and that calendaring doesn't work? > >And that contacts might or might not work? > >I would have thought that this would have been a real priority for level >star to make sure that these features worked under vista. > >To me, this seems even more important than nls or audible support. > >Regarding file sharing, from what I have heard, it looks like you'll be >able >to share things in your music folder and in a public folder. > >But I'd hate to put in all my contacts by hand > >And I can't believe that no one on the beta team was using vista and >didn't >catch this. > > > >Paul Henrichsen > >paulh52@xxxxxxxxxxx > >Kurzweil 1000 Technical Support Engineer > >(800) 894-5374 > >Press 5 then 2 > >or: (888) 995-9905 > > > >From: icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >[mailto:icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Richard Turner >Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 8:54 PM >To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Disk drive mode a vista; a problem > > > >Hi Paul, > >I've used it under Vista. The key is to wait long enough for the >computer >to see the Braille Plus. > >Also, the sync program isn't truly up to snuff as yet. Make sure you >have >back ups of your Contacts, though Contacts do seem to work well. >However, >the Calendar does not work at all well and you may lose appointments if >you >try syncing the calendar. I have not used it for music. > >You may want to just manually copy the music over once disk drive mode >works >for you. > > > >I'm looking forward to the new wireless networking that will be in the >next >release to do much copying of files back and forth. > > > >Richard > > > > > >_____ > >From: icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >[mailto:icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Paul Henrichsen >Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 5:57 PM >To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Subject: [icon-discuss] Disk drive mode a vista; a problem > > > >Hi. I decided to try disk drive mode so I could sync my contacts and >transfer some music. Unfortunately, under windows vista, coming up in >disk >drive mode is problematic at best. > >It is very sluggish with windows explorer locking up easily. > >I have tried it 3-4 times so far without success. If I do get a listing >of >directories, it might lock up when moving down the list. If I press >enter on >the music folder, nothing happens at all. > >I remember the same problem with the VR stream until they came out with >their update. > >Has anyone tested disk drive mode under vista? > > > > > >Paul Henrichsen > >paulh52@xxxxxxxxxxx > >Kurzweil 1000 Technical Support Engineer > >(800) 894-5374 > >Press 5 then 2 > >or: (888) 995-9905 > > > > > >__________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus >signature >database 2884 (20080218) __________ > >The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > >http://www.eset.com > > > >__________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus >signature >database 2884 (20080218) __________ > >The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > >http://www.eset.com > > >Hi, Richard. Yes. I agree this device >will outstrip other devices. >I guess am just frustrated as a >new user. >Each time I try something new, I >come up with little problems like when reading through an email message >or not >being able to back up properly with the media player in a pod cast. >One of the things I was looking >forward to was synchronizing my contacts. Right now, I dont do much with >my planner, but who knows, in the future. >But I did want to have my >contacts on the Icon. >I also thought it would be neat >to put a bunch of my albums on the unit. I havent even tried the music >player as of yet. >Perhaps Ill have to put batches >of music onto a mini sd card and transfer them into the music folder >that way. >Lastly, I thought the icon was >around two years old. Was it introduced at CSUN last march or the year >before? >I dont remember. >Guess Ill just have to be >more patient<grin>. > > >Paul Henrichsen >paulh52@xxxxxxxxxxx >Kurzweil 1000 Technical Support >Engineer >(800) 894-5374 >Press 5 then 2 >or: (888) 995-9905 > >From: >icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >[mailto:icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On >Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 5:23 AM >To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Disk drive >mode a vista; a problem > >Hi Paul, >Before you got on the list, this was a point of discussion among >those who want to use the Braille Plus for work/personal appointments. >I do think synchronizing the Outlook Contacts work OK, but I would >just be sure you have a back up. >However, until they fix it, don't even think of synchronizing your >calendar with Outlook. That is one that can end up deleting >appointments >from Outlook instead of just transferring them to the Braille Plus. > >Of course, if you cannot get disk drive mode to work, synchronizing >is dead for you anyway. > >You may try re-installing the USB drivers. > >Otherwise, it may be a good idea to call APH and see if they have >other suggestions. I will also double check on my work machine which is >running Vista. > >I know Larry Skutchan hopes to have the synchronization issues >worked out by Summer, if not sooner. I, like you and many others, hope >for sooner. > >Remember, this is a very new device; and for me, in spite of some >of the frustrations, I think it will end up outstripping the other >portable >blindness devices. > >Richard > > > > > > >From: >icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >[mailto:icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On >Behalf Of Paul Henrichsen Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 11:04 PM >To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Disk drive >mode a vista; a problem > >Hi, Richard. The problem is that >you have to wait for several minutes, possibly five or more. I had my >sighted >wife watch. We never did get it to work. The bar goes across the screen >extremely slowly. >You could go away and have >dinner and it might be in the folder when you got back. >It works just fine in xp on her >laptop, but not on my vista machine. >Since this is such an important >part of the icon, I was somewhat disappointed. And now to hear you say >that the >sync utility is not up to snuff and that calendaring doesnt work? >And that contacts might or might >not work? >I would have thought that this >would have been a real priority for level star to make sure that these >features >worked under vista. >To me, this seems even more >important than nls or audible support. >Regarding file sharing, from >what I have heard, it looks like youll be able to share things in your >music folder and in a public folder. >But Id hate to put in all >my contacts by hand >And I cant believe that >no one on the beta team was using vista and didnt catch this. > >Paul Henrichsen >paulh52@xxxxxxxxxxx >Kurzweil 1000 Technical Support >Engineer >(800) 894-5374 >Press 5 then 2 >or: (888) 995-9905 > >From: >icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >[mailto:icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On >Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 8:54 PM To: > icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Disk drive >mode a vista; a problem > >Hi Paul, >I've used it under Vista. The key is to wait long enough for >the computer to see the Braille Plus. >Also, the sync program isn't truly up to snuff as yet. Make >sure you have back ups of your Contacts, though Contacts do seem to work >well. >However, the Calendar does not work at all well and you may lose >appointments if you try syncing the calendar. I have not used it for >music. >You may want to just manually copy the music over once disk drive >mode works for you. > >I'm looking forward to the new wireless networking that will be in >the next release to do much copying of files back and forth. > >Richard > > >From: >icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >[mailto:icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On >Behalf Of Paul Henrichsen Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 5:57 PM >To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [icon-discuss] Disk drive >mode a vista; a problem > >Hi. I decided to try disk drive mode so I could sync my >contacts and transfer some music. Unfortunately, under windows vista, >coming up >in disk drive mode is problematic at best. >It is very sluggish with windows explorer locking up easily. >I have tried it 3-4 times so far without success. If I do >get a listing of directories, it might lock up when moving down the >list. If I >press enter on the music folder, nothing happens at all. >I remember the same problem with the VR stream until they >came out with their update. >Has anyone tested disk drive mode under vista? > > >Paul Henrichsen >paulh52@xxxxxxxxxxx >Kurzweil 1000 Technical Support Engineer >(800) 894-5374 >Press 5 then 2 >or: (888) 995-9905 > > >__________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus >signature >database 2884 (20080218) __________ >The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com > >__________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus >signature >database 2884 (20080218) __________ >The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com >