[icon-discuss] Re: Disk drive mode a vista; a problem
- From: "Chase Crispin" <chase.crispin@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 11:27:37 -0600
Yes, the Icon and Braille+ are running the same software, and have the same
hardware. The only difference is the Braille Keyboard, and the Braille+ is
rectangle, but the Icon is narrower at the bottom and the edges are more
rounded. That is the only difference.
Chase Crispin
E-mail:
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-----Original Message-----
From: icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Paul Henrichsen
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 6:50 PM
To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Disk drive mode a vista; a problem
Yes, but I figure it's the same hardware and software except for the braille
keys.
At least, I think it's the same insides other than the keys.
But not sure.
Paul Henrichsen
paulh52@xxxxxxxxxxx
Kurzweil 1000 Technical Support Engineer
(800) 894-5374
Press 5 then 2
or: (888) 995-9905
-----Original Message-----
From: icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of chase crispin
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 2:23 AM
To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Disk drive mode a vista; a problem
the icon was released in December of 2006, and the Braille+ was released
in May 2007.
Chase Crispin
On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 11:06:00 -0800, Paul Henrichsen wrote:
>Hi, Richard. Yes. I agree this device will outstrip other devices.
>
>I guess am just frustrated as a new user.
>
>Each time I try something new, I come up with little problems like when
>reading through an email message or not being able to back up properly
>with
>the media player in a pod cast.
>
>One of the things I was looking forward to was synchronizing my
>contacts.
>Right now, I don't do much with my planner, but who knows, in the
>future.
>
>But I did want to have my contacts on the Icon.
>
>I also thought it would be neat to put a bunch of my albums on the unit.
>I
>haven't even tried the music player as of yet.
>
>Perhaps I'll have to put batches of music onto a mini sd card and
>transfer
>them into the music folder that way.
>
>Lastly, I thought the icon was around two years old. Was it introduced
>at
>CSUN last march or the year before? I don't remember.
>
>Guess I'll just have to be more patient<grin>.
>
>
>
>
>
>Paul Henrichsen
>
>paulh52@xxxxxxxxxxx
>
>Kurzweil 1000 Technical Support Engineer
>
>(800) 894-5374
>
>Press 5 then 2
>
>or: (888) 995-9905
>
>
>
>From: icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>[mailto:icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
>Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 5:23 AM
>To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Disk drive mode a vista; a problem
>
>
>
>Hi Paul,
>
>Before you got on the list, this was a point of discussion among those
>who
>want to use the Braille Plus for work/personal appointments.
>
>I do think synchronizing the Outlook Contacts work OK, but I would just
>be
>sure you have a back up.
>
>However, until they fix it, don't even think of synchronizing your
>calendar
>with Outlook. That is one that can end up deleting appointments from
>Outlook instead of just transferring them to the Braille Plus.
>
>
>
>Of course, if you cannot get disk drive mode to work, synchronizing is
>dead
>for you anyway.
>
>
>
>You may try re-installing the USB drivers.
>
>
>
>Otherwise, it may be a good idea to call APH and see if they have other
>suggestions. I will also double check on my work machine which is
>running
>Vista.
>
>
>
>I know Larry Skutchan hopes to have the synchronization issues worked
>out by
>Summer, if not sooner. I, like you and many others, hope for sooner.
>
>
>
>Remember, this is a very new device; and for me, in spite of some of the
>frustrations, I think it will end up outstripping the other portable
>blindness devices.
>
>
>
>Richard
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>_____
>
>From: icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>[mailto:icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Paul Henrichsen
>Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 11:04 PM
>To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Disk drive mode a vista; a problem
>
>
>
>Hi, Richard. The problem is that you have to wait for several minutes,
>possibly five or more. I had my sighted wife watch. We never did get it
>to
>work. The bar goes across the screen extremely slowly.
>
>You could go away and have dinner and it might be in the folder when you
>got
>back.
>
>It works just fine in xp on her laptop, but not on my vista machine.
>
>Since this is such an important part of the icon, I was somewhat
>disappointed. And now to hear you say that the sync utility is not up to
>snuff and that calendaring doesn't work?
>
>And that contacts might or might not work?
>
>I would have thought that this would have been a real priority for level
>star to make sure that these features worked under vista.
>
>To me, this seems even more important than nls or audible support.
>
>Regarding file sharing, from what I have heard, it looks like you'll be
>able
>to share things in your music folder and in a public folder.
>
>But I'd hate to put in all my contacts by hand
>
>And I can't believe that no one on the beta team was using vista and
>didn't
>catch this.
>
>
>
>Paul Henrichsen
>
>paulh52@xxxxxxxxxxx
>
>Kurzweil 1000 Technical Support Engineer
>
>(800) 894-5374
>
>Press 5 then 2
>
>or: (888) 995-9905
>
>
>
>From: icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>[mailto:icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
>Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 8:54 PM
>To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Disk drive mode a vista; a problem
>
>
>
>Hi Paul,
>
>I've used it under Vista. The key is to wait long enough for the
>computer
>to see the Braille Plus.
>
>Also, the sync program isn't truly up to snuff as yet. Make sure you
>have
>back ups of your Contacts, though Contacts do seem to work well.
>However,
>the Calendar does not work at all well and you may lose appointments if
>you
>try syncing the calendar. I have not used it for music.
>
>You may want to just manually copy the music over once disk drive mode
>works
>for you.
>
>
>
>I'm looking forward to the new wireless networking that will be in the
>next
>release to do much copying of files back and forth.
>
>
>
>Richard
>
>
>
>
>
>_____
>
>From: icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>[mailto:icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Paul Henrichsen
>Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 5:57 PM
>To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [icon-discuss] Disk drive mode a vista; a problem
>
>
>
>Hi. I decided to try disk drive mode so I could sync my contacts and
>transfer some music. Unfortunately, under windows vista, coming up in
>disk
>drive mode is problematic at best.
>
>It is very sluggish with windows explorer locking up easily.
>
>I have tried it 3-4 times so far without success. If I do get a listing
>of
>directories, it might lock up when moving down the list. If I press
>enter on
>the music folder, nothing happens at all.
>
>I remember the same problem with the VR stream until they came out with
>their update.
>
>Has anyone tested disk drive mode under vista?
>
>
>
>
>
>Paul Henrichsen
>
>paulh52@xxxxxxxxxxx
>
>Kurzweil 1000 Technical Support Engineer
>
>(800) 894-5374
>
>Press 5 then 2
>
>or: (888) 995-9905
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
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>
>Hi, Richard. Yes. I agree this device
>will outstrip other devices.
>I guess am just frustrated as a
>new user.
>Each time I try something new, I
>come up with little problems like when reading through an email message
>or not
>being able to back up properly with the media player in a pod cast.
>One of the things I was looking
>forward to was synchronizing my contacts. Right now, I dont do much with
>my planner, but who knows, in the future.
>But I did want to have my
>contacts on the Icon.
>I also thought it would be neat
>to put a bunch of my albums on the unit. I havent even tried the music
>player as of yet.
>Perhaps Ill have to put batches
>of music onto a mini sd card and transfer them into the music folder
>that way.
>Lastly, I thought the icon was
>around two years old. Was it introduced at CSUN last march or the year
>before?
>I dont remember.
>Guess Ill just have to be
>more patient<grin>.
>
>
>Paul Henrichsen
>paulh52@xxxxxxxxxxx
>Kurzweil 1000 Technical Support
>Engineer
>(800) 894-5374
>Press 5 then 2
>or: (888) 995-9905
>
>From:
>icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>[mailto:icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 5:23 AM
>To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Disk drive
>mode a vista; a problem
>
>Hi Paul,
>Before you got on the list, this was a point of discussion among
>those who want to use the Braille Plus for work/personal appointments.
>I do think synchronizing the Outlook Contacts work OK, but I would
>just be sure you have a back up.
>However, until they fix it, don't even think of synchronizing your
>calendar with Outlook. That is one that can end up deleting
>appointments
>from Outlook instead of just transferring them to the Braille Plus.
>
>Of course, if you cannot get disk drive mode to work, synchronizing
>is dead for you anyway.
>
>You may try re-installing the USB drivers.
>
>Otherwise, it may be a good idea to call APH and see if they have
>other suggestions. I will also double check on my work machine which is
>running Vista.
>
>I know Larry Skutchan hopes to have the synchronization issues
>worked out by Summer, if not sooner. I, like you and many others, hope
>for sooner.
>
>Remember, this is a very new device; and for me, in spite of some
>of the frustrations, I think it will end up outstripping the other
>portable
>blindness devices.
>
>Richard
>
>
>
>
>
>
>From:
>icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>[mailto:icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>Behalf Of Paul Henrichsen Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 11:04 PM
>To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Disk drive
>mode a vista; a problem
>
>Hi, Richard. The problem is that
>you have to wait for several minutes, possibly five or more. I had my
>sighted
>wife watch. We never did get it to work. The bar goes across the screen
>extremely slowly.
>You could go away and have
>dinner and it might be in the folder when you got back.
>It works just fine in xp on her
>laptop, but not on my vista machine.
>Since this is such an important
>part of the icon, I was somewhat disappointed. And now to hear you say
>that the
>sync utility is not up to snuff and that calendaring doesnt work?
>And that contacts might or might
>not work?
>I would have thought that this
>would have been a real priority for level star to make sure that these
>features
>worked under vista.
>To me, this seems even more
>important than nls or audible support.
>Regarding file sharing, from
>what I have heard, it looks like youll be able to share things in your
>music folder and in a public folder.
>But Id hate to put in all
>my contacts by hand
>And I cant believe that
>no one on the beta team was using vista and didnt catch this.
>
>Paul Henrichsen
>paulh52@xxxxxxxxxxx
>Kurzweil 1000 Technical Support
>Engineer
>(800) 894-5374
>Press 5 then 2
>or: (888) 995-9905
>
>From:
>icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>[mailto:icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 8:54 PM To:
> icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Disk drive
>mode a vista; a problem
>
>Hi Paul,
>I've used it under Vista. The key is to wait long enough for
>the computer to see the Braille Plus.
>Also, the sync program isn't truly up to snuff as yet. Make
>sure you have back ups of your Contacts, though Contacts do seem to work
>well.
>However, the Calendar does not work at all well and you may lose
>appointments if you try syncing the calendar. I have not used it for
>music.
>You may want to just manually copy the music over once disk drive
>mode works for you.
>
>I'm looking forward to the new wireless networking that will be in
>the next release to do much copying of files back and forth.
>
>Richard
>
>
>From:
>icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>[mailto:icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>Behalf Of Paul Henrichsen Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 5:57 PM
>To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [icon-discuss] Disk drive
>mode a vista; a problem
>
>Hi. I decided to try disk drive mode so I could sync my
>contacts and transfer some music. Unfortunately, under windows vista,
>coming up
>in disk drive mode is problematic at best.
>It is very sluggish with windows explorer locking up easily.
>I have tried it 3-4 times so far without success. If I do
>get a listing of directories, it might lock up when moving down the
>list. If I
>press enter on the music folder, nothing happens at all.
>I remember the same problem with the VR stream until they
>came out with their update.
>Has anyone tested disk drive mode under vista?
>
>
>Paul Henrichsen
>paulh52@xxxxxxxxxxx
>Kurzweil 1000 Technical Support Engineer
>(800) 894-5374
>Press 5 then 2
>or: (888) 995-9905
>
>
>__________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus
>signature
>database 2884 (20080218) __________
>The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com
>
>__________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus
>signature
>database 2884 (20080218) __________
>The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com
>
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