[icon-discuss] Re: Disk drive mode a vista; a problem
- From: "Paul Henrichsen" <paulh52@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:37:46 -0800
Hi, Richard. Sometimes, the disk would open after a minute. But sometimes,
windows explorer would just hang.
I could up and down arrow and see the folders, but pressing enter on a
folder would just hang. I have a quad core processor with 2gb of 800 mhz
memory; so it is an extremely fast machine. Doing a vista rating test shows
it to be a five.
I did try it from a port in the back as well as one in the front with not
much different results.
After a minute or so, it would bring up a listing of the seven folders. I
tried entering the music folder even though I knew there was nothing there.
I thought it would at least show me the empty list like it does on other
folders on my computer, but it just seemed to hang.
Under vista, I'm not really sure how to delete the USB drive for the icon.
I did transfer some music from my thumb drive today; so I do have some in
there now. Mine is all properly tagged.
I use the CD3o network player and it wants all music tagged properly.
Otherwise, you get those unknown items<grin>.
I sure hope APH can get this working better under vista.
Paul Henrichsen
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[mailto:icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 11:50 AM
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Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Disk drive mode a vista; a problem
Hi paul,
I just tried disk drive mode on my Vista machine. It took less than a
minute to open the Braille Plus drive.
So, I'd triple check the USB driver installation and/or try a different USB
port.
The Braille Plus only came out last may, or perhaps April. I believe the
Icon started being sold in late 2006. A proto-type was shown I think in
2005 or 2006 at CSUN.
Once you get the disk drive mode working, the contacts should sync. Again,
make sure you can restore your contacts in case of a problem.
The music player is great and I gather will be even better in the next
release because proper tagging of the mp3 files won't be so important.
The Mini-SD card method will work fine. I've done that.
But, the disk drive mode should be working in Vista. I hope you can resolve
that one.
Good luck,
Richard
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[mailto:icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Paul Henrichsen
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 11:06 AM
To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Disk drive mode a vista; a problem
Hi, Richard. Yes. I agree this device will outstrip other devices.
I guess am just frustrated as a new user.
Each time I try something new, I come up with little problems like when
reading through an email message or not being able to back up properly with
the media player in a pod cast.
One of the things I was looking forward to was synchronizing my contacts.
Right now, I don't do much with my planner, but who knows, in the future.
But I did want to have my contacts on the Icon.
I also thought it would be neat to put a bunch of my albums on the unit. I
haven't even tried the music player as of yet.
Perhaps I'll have to put batches of music onto a mini sd card and transfer
them into the music folder that way.
Lastly, I thought the icon was around two years old. Was it introduced at
CSUN last march or the year before? I don't remember.
Guess I'll just have to be more patient<grin>.
Paul Henrichsen
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(800) 894-5374
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or: (888) 995-9905
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[mailto:icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 5:23 AM
To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Disk drive mode a vista; a problem
Hi Paul,
Before you got on the list, this was a point of discussion among those who
want to use the Braille Plus for work/personal appointments.
I do think synchronizing the Outlook Contacts work OK, but I would just be
sure you have a back up.
However, until they fix it, don't even think of synchronizing your calendar
with Outlook. That is one that can end up deleting appointments from
Outlook instead of just transferring them to the Braille Plus.
Of course, if you cannot get disk drive mode to work, synchronizing is dead
for you anyway.
You may try re-installing the USB drivers.
Otherwise, it may be a good idea to call APH and see if they have other
suggestions. I will also double check on my work machine which is running
Vista.
I know Larry Skutchan hopes to have the synchronization issues worked out by
Summer, if not sooner. I, like you and many others, hope for sooner.
Remember, this is a very new device; and for me, in spite of some of the
frustrations, I think it will end up outstripping the other portable
blindness devices.
Richard
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[mailto:icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Paul Henrichsen
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 11:04 PM
To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Disk drive mode a vista; a problem
Hi, Richard. The problem is that you have to wait for several minutes,
possibly five or more. I had my sighted wife watch. We never did get it to
work. The bar goes across the screen extremely slowly.
You could go away and have dinner and it might be in the folder when you got
back.
It works just fine in xp on her laptop, but not on my vista machine.
Since this is such an important part of the icon, I was somewhat
disappointed. And now to hear you say that the sync utility is not up to
snuff and that calendaring doesn't work?
And that contacts might or might not work?
I would have thought that this would have been a real priority for level
star to make sure that these features worked under vista.
To me, this seems even more important than nls or audible support.
Regarding file sharing, from what I have heard, it looks like you'll be able
to share things in your music folder and in a public folder.
But I'd hate to put in all my contacts by hand
And I can't believe that no one on the beta team was using vista and didn't
catch this.
Paul Henrichsen
paulh52@xxxxxxxxxxx
Kurzweil 1000 Technical Support Engineer
(800) 894-5374
Press 5 then 2
or: (888) 995-9905
From: icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 8:54 PM
To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Disk drive mode a vista; a problem
Hi Paul,
I've used it under Vista. The key is to wait long enough for the computer
to see the Braille Plus.
Also, the sync program isn't truly up to snuff as yet. Make sure you have
back ups of your Contacts, though Contacts do seem to work well. However,
the Calendar does not work at all well and you may lose appointments if you
try syncing the calendar. I have not used it for music.
You may want to just manually copy the music over once disk drive mode works
for you.
I'm looking forward to the new wireless networking that will be in the next
release to do much copying of files back and forth.
Richard
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From: icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Paul Henrichsen
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 5:57 PM
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Subject: [icon-discuss] Disk drive mode a vista; a problem
Hi. I decided to try disk drive mode so I could sync my contacts and
transfer some music. Unfortunately, under windows vista, coming up in disk
drive mode is problematic at best.
It is very sluggish with windows explorer locking up easily.
I have tried it 3-4 times so far without success. If I do get a listing of
directories, it might lock up when moving down the list. If I press enter on
the music folder, nothing happens at all.
I remember the same problem with the VR stream until they came out with
their update.
Has anyone tested disk drive mode under vista?
Paul Henrichsen
paulh52@xxxxxxxxxxx
Kurzweil 1000 Technical Support Engineer
(800) 894-5374
Press 5 then 2
or: (888) 995-9905
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