[icon-discuss] Re: Bookshare on the Icon

  • From: "kaye zimpher" <kayezimpher@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 18:13:00 -0400

I do actually use the page numbers for searching if the Icon loses my place in a book which it does from time to time I search for the page number. Comes in quite handy. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich Ring" <ring2@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>

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Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 3:51 PM
Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Bookshare on the Icon


Oh, it's not that bad!
It will build your listening skills! (evil grin)

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John Esak
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 11:29 AM
To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Bookshare on the Icon


Oh, thank God.  Great the NLS books will be SO much better than....
Yes,
it is the heading on each page of many books that is so annoying.
Combined with the page number... on short books it is really a
distraction.  I would love to be able to teach myself to ignore this
like others say they do. I not only can't ignore it... I localize on
it... so it is practically the only thing I hear... sort of waiting for
it to come around each time. Stupid, huh?


John


-----Original Message-----
From: icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:icon-discuss-
bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of LARRY SKUTCHAN
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 8:52 AM
To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Bookshare on the Icon

I think the reason you're seeing this kind of thing on Bookshare is
that people just scan in the books, and that information is often at
the top or bottom of each page of the printed book. Some people take
the time to clean these and others don't. The books from NLS are not
like this.

>>> john@xxxxxxxxx Monday, October 22, 2007 5:54:32 PM >>>
Hi,

I've been a member of Bookshare.org for about 5 years and read dozens
and dozens of books from their site. However, I do it a completely
stupid way... just learned this way from someone and never changed. I
choose to convert the book to HTML and then I go through the
downloaded book in some editor, usually Word and delete all the
garbage like page numbers and chapter and page headings, etc.

I was so thrilled to see how easy the Icon retrieves books from
Bookshare and was really excited to listen for the first time to them
in Daisy format. Much to my dismay, there is still all that junk in
them. The page number is
read about every minute, and the page headings etc., etc. Does
everybody
using Daisy books from Bookshare just put up with all this detritis?
It
is
so distracting and takes so much away from the book itself because it
adds
so much garbage.

Please... please tell me I'm doing it a completely stupid and
uninformed way and there is some simple little thing I'm doing  or not

doing that will make
the page numbers and such either go away or never be there in the
first
place.  This dragging the book through to HTMNL and then globally
removing
as much stuff as I can manually is so much of a drag that it makes it
almost
completely counter productive to read books from Bookshare.

I would have thought a Daisy book would not have this stuff in it. Am
I just hopig for too much?

And please, no matter what... even if it's true... don't tell me that
the new NLS books will be this way, too. I'll jump off a cliff.

John









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