Time: March 8, 2011 Noon US Pacific Time ===== Audio: ====== Voice dial-in: (800) 637-5822 International: +1 (647) 723-3937 <--- (For Canada) 0114501530 <--- (For Sweden) 0201400572 <--- (For Sweden Toll Free) 069509594672 <--- (For Germany) 08001014542 <--- (For Germany Toll free) Access Code: 685-0440 Web === Click Here to Join Live Meeting: http://tinyurl.com/yvmesj or: https://www.livemeeting.com/cc/sisoft/join?id=NKQQN3&role=attend&pw=TP8j %23-%25%7E5 Mentor Global Crossing Teleconference commands: http://www.globalcrossing.com/customer/collaboration/cust_ready_access_t ips.aspx FIRST TIME USERS: To save time before the meeting, check your system to make sure it is compatible with Microsoft Office Live Meeting. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Agenda ====== 1) Opens 2) Call for any related patent disclosures 3) Review of ARs: Bob: Check BIRD 127 for type clarification possibilities - in progress Ken: Draft language to clarify handling of multiple channels (cross talk BIRD) - in progress Ambrish: Start a BIRD on row 25 in the Task List - in progress Bob: Write a BIRD on correcting Table 1-3 in the spec. (Row 23 in the Task List). - in progress Any other AR-s? Old ARs: Arpad: Review the documentation (annotation) in the macro libraries. - deferred until a demand arises or we have nothing else to do 4) Cross talk BIRD draft http://www.vhdl.org/pub/ibis/macromodel_wip/archive/20110301/arpadmurany i/Crosstalk%20Clarification%20BIRD%20draft%203/Xtalk_BIRD_3.pdf - no changes have been made to the BIRD draft since last week - QUESTION: how does the Init function know whether it belongs to a victim or aggressor Tx? Aggressor Init modifies all columns in the impulse_matrix, victim Init modifies only the first column. This can be resolved by the EDA tool passing a single column impulse_matrix to the victim Init and then add the modified IR-s from the aggressor Init to this, but this becomes a flow discussion. 5) (Format) Table (including Row 21, 22) - Continue discussion from last time - what is the meaning/purpose of the first column? - what is the purpose for tables in general? 6) Model_Specific parameters Usage Out/InOut - Since we do not know the meaning of these, what is the EDA tool expected to do with them? - Type Tap has a unique meaning, we could allow this, but something should be mentioned in the spec on what the tool is expected to do (plot, log file, etc). - how about the rest of the Types? Does it make sense to allow them? 7a) BIRD 121, data management parameters (file support) - questions, comments? 7b) BIRD 123, jitter parameters - how do we deal with Usage Out? (includes Row 37) - remove it from the spec? - specify that only the Init function can return values? 7c) BIRD 124, dependency table 8) GetWave block size for multiple calls - does each call have to be the same size? - does the block size have to be an integer bit size? 9) Anything else for today? Remaining Task List items: ========================== Row 18: What is the ambiguity between Format and Text Strings? - answer: See row 25 Row 21: According to the BNF, the Format = Table syntax is invalid. - If Format is removed, this s not a problem, but if Format is there the problem still exists. Do we need to fix this? - we will address this when talking about Table Row 22: The syntax for a leaf is: (Row 22 in Task List) <leaf>: ( <parameter name> whitespace <value list> ) So in a Table which is written like this: (-50 -0.1 1e-35), -50 is actually a parameter name, i.e. a string, not a value. -deprecate Table back to List? - we will address this when talking about Table Row 23/24: Fix the two tables to reflect what is in the text - need someone to volunteer to write a BIRD - Bob agreed to do this after the 2010 Asian Summit Row 25: Define relationship between Type and Format - discuss Walter's suggestions - need someone to volunteer to write a BIRD Row 26: This is basically the same as the items in Row 46-47. Row 33: Is AMI_Init restricted to change first column of impulse_matrix only? - Sigrity is writing a BIRD draft on this (Ken) Row 35: Clarify questions about impulse response - this needs to be discussed Row 37: Usage Out for reserved (jitter) parameters - which function (Init or GetWave) can return these? Row 46/47: Remove certain parameters and keywords - this needs to be discussed Thanks, Arpad ===================================================================== --------------------------------------------------------------------- IBIS Macro website : http://www.eda.org/pub/ibis/macromodel_wip/ IBIS Macro reflector: //www.freelists.org/list/ibis-macro To unsubscribe send an email: To: ibis-macro-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: unsubscribe