Ambrish, You are correct. Read once, send three times. Here is a corrected version. Walter From: ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ambrish Varma Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 11:48 AM To: 'IBIS-ATM' Subject: [ibis-macro] Re: Mea Culpa, my critique of the Crosstalk BIRD last week was incorrect. Hi Walter, If I am not wrong, there is a slight problem with your example. Instead of "The impulse matrix to input RxV is SDD(RxV,TxV)' SDD(RxV,Tx1)' SDD(Rx2,Tx2)' The impulse response output of RxV is SDD(RxV,TxV)'' SDD(RxV,Tx1)'' SDD(Rx2,Tx2)'' (All three include RxV filter)" Shouldn't it be: "The impulse matrix to input RxV is SDD(RxV,TxV)' SDD(RxV,Tx1)' SDD(RxV,Tx2)' The impulse response output of RxV is SDD(RxV,TxV)'' SDD(RxV,Tx1)'' SDD(RxV,Tx2)'' (All three include RxV filter)" Thanks, -Ambrish. Ambrish Varma | Member of Consulting Staff P: 978.262.6431 <http://www.cadence.com> www.cadence.com _____ From: ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Walter Katz Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 10:53 AM To: Arpad_Muranyi@xxxxxxxxxx; 'IBIS-ATM' Subject: [ibis-macro] Re: Mea Culpa, my critique of the Crosstalk BIRD last week was incorrect. Arpad, Here it is again, one page, and some minor modifications. I do not care if this example is in the BIRD, a reference in the minutes is sufficient for me, but I have no objection if it is included. I think a request was mad for a graohic example, as opposed to a mathematical example. Walter From: ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Muranyi, Arpad Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 10:39 AM To: IBIS-ATM Subject: [ibis-macro] Re: Mea Culpa, my critique of the Crosstalk BIRD last week was incorrect. Walter, Is the 2nd page "left intentionally blank" in the PDF you sent in the attachment? If so, would you mind removing it and send it to us again so we could post a single page document? Did you want this example in the BIRD also (and ultimately in the spec)? Someone suggested in the previous meetings that examples would be good, but I don't remember for which BIRD it was suggested. Thanks, Arpad ============================================================ From: ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Walter Katz Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 8:59 AM To: IBIS-ATM Subject: [ibis-macro] Mea Culpa, my critique of the Crosstalk BIRD last week was incorrect. All, Mea Culpa, my critique of the Crosstalk BIRD last week was incorrect. After a careful read I totally agree with the contents of the BIRD and would support a motion to submit it to the Open Forum, with this committees concurrence. Not for Naught! I did document an example of a coupled system containing a single victim channel and two aggressor channels. The various elements of the Impulse Response are defined using Touchstone notation, and the input and output of the impulse response matrix for each Tx and Rx AMI_Init function call is defined by rows and columns in the differential mode, coupled sNp that represents any coupled channel. I would like this document posted, and I would like the weekly minutes to note it. Walter Walter Katz wkatz@xxxxxxxxxx Phone 303.449-2308 Mobile 303.883-2120