Hi Arpad, If I understand the question, it's "What's the reference point for placing the eye mask template?" ? [that mask can be Tx or Rx sides, depending on the standard chosen] My view is: There is no absolute reference given the nature of the links. The common practice is to centre the mask inside the output eye, but this is completely tester determined [we're talking compliance testing here]. Given that the horizontal and vertical edge points are defined, the absolute timing reference doesn't matter - that's the whole point of the link....timing/data extraction. Regards, Richard -----Original Message----- From: ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Muranyi, Arpad Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 10:43 AM To: IBIS-ATM Subject: [ibis-macro] Re: Eye mask question Sorry for my poor problem statement... I mean the output of Rx (as it comes back from Rx GetWave), used together with the clock ticks from Rx GetWave to formulate the eye. Arpad ================================================ -----Original Message----- From: Todd Westerhoff [mailto:twesterh@xxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 12:40 PM To: Muranyi, Arpad Cc: IBIS-ATM Subject: Re: [ibis-macro] Eye mask question Arpad, Not meaning to be enigmatic here, but what signal(s) are you thinking get used to generate the eye diagram, and how? Todd. Todd Westerhoff VP, Software Products SiSoft 6 Clock Tower Place, Suite 250 Maynard, MA 01754 (978) 461-0449 x24 twesterh@xxxxxxxxxx www.sisoft.com Muranyi, Arpad wrote: > Hello IBIS-AMI experts, > > This is a question regarding the analysis/evaluation > of the results we get back from an AMI simulation. > > How does the user decide whether the eye is good or bad? > > Naturally we have this thing called eye mask (template) > which we would all be able to drop into the eye without > touching any of the waveforms. But where are we trying > to position it? Anywhere it fits the best way? Or is > it supposed to be positioned at a certain location? > > Thanks for any feedback in advance, > > Arpad > ========================================================= > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > IBIS Macro website : http://www.eda.org/pub/ibis/macromodel_wip/ > IBIS Macro reflector: //www.freelists.org/list/ibis-macro > To unsubscribe send an email: > To: ibis-macro-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: unsubscribe > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- IBIS Macro website : http://www.eda.org/pub/ibis/macromodel_wip/ IBIS Macro reflector: //www.freelists.org/list/ibis-macro To unsubscribe send an email: To: ibis-macro-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: unsubscribe --------------------------------------------------------------------- IBIS Macro website : http://www.eda.org/pub/ibis/macromodel_wip/ IBIS Macro reflector: //www.freelists.org/list/ibis-macro To unsubscribe send an email: To: ibis-macro-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: unsubscribe