Yeah, I am working on a demo map based on the two cities map. Hopefully it can
shed some light on what might be possible without killing balance or making the
computer perform suicidal choices.
Right now I have the four resources, food, wood, stone and metal. These each
can upgrade from small to large, and are able to produce more resource for the
same amount of work as they grow.
They are usually atfull strength and output by round 20 or so, which might be
a bit too early, we will see.
The supply wagon I think is going to work a little better. I gave it a follow
skill, like the cat in den of the slave lords. The supply will follow about
three spaces behind a friendly unit closest to it. So it is there, but sort of
out of the way. They can resupply so the trick I am thinking is to have
supply wagons switch out. I am thinking a keep or mercantile will do for
forward support of supply wagons. I am kind of excited about the wagon, grin.
I have a few ideas that might be cool and different.
One is to have the inn be a place to hire whole mercenary companies.
If it builds a stables, it can then allow mounted companies get hired out.
The tavern will have a similar feature, onlyit will deal with individual heros.
I plan on the heros being random and that when one hero is hired, a new one
will take it's place...well, that s the idea anyway.
So if a stables is made by the tavern, itcan have heros with mounts of all
sorts.
I also thought of the tavern having a kind of casino. A player with a warlord
can take money to the tavern and play games of chance, or bet on duelists or
horse racing. Or maybe a separate structure would work for that, if that sund
interesting. It would be basic, nothing crazy.
I know people wanted to have units from other races, but I cant think of a
faction that has just whatever thrown together. So I thought maybe a barracks
attached to a castle or keep would provide some other troops from any other
faction, good or evil. Thus a human faction could hire undead, or monsters or
vice versa. That might be more then I can handle but I gues that is in the
future. Right now it is all just on the drawing board.
I will let the list know when the demo is ready. It might be a week or so.
al
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[mailto:ian-reeds-games-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Zak Claassen
Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2017 8:09 AM
To: ian-reeds-games@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ian-reeds-games] Re: best laid plans of mice and ogres
It could work; it's difficult to say if you can't try it out to test
how it works out though. That's odd about the wagons, I guess it's
meant to avoid the AI using it when a unit only needs one point. Maybe
you could work around the AI not being good at building buildings by
placing construction sites for them that they just need to complete
rather than them deciding what and where to build. That way they would
still need some developing.
On 3/18/17, Allan Thompson <allan1.thompson@xxxxxxx> wrote:
I am working on it.
I am thinking of this...
What if I have the city have one shot structure builders . These would build
according to strict ai things to make them work right.
For the player, maybe items could be utilized. The items would allow the
player to build any number of buildings they wish, once they become
available...and of course, if they can be afforded.
So the player would use the skills first, then switch to the items later to
build further buildings.
Hopefully that will work.
I wouldn’t mind the computer be able to build more then one of each
building, but I am not sure how to regulate that. I am thinking of maybe the
minor structures gain levels like the units will, and so able to produce
output at higher levels.
The supply wagon is a little tricky. It will not restore a point unless
that point is as low or lower then the skill restore flag. So if the
restore supplies is 20 straight up, the wagon willnot resupply until someone
has 20 points to fill. I have it right now at 5d4 makinga range of 5 thru
20 which helps a bit...
The wagon, once empty, can return to the city, or, I am thinking, a keep to
gain more resources to send out once more. I might give it levels too,
allowing it to move faster, and maybe perform minor things like a little
minor healing or getting a faster movement. I figured the keep would be
perfect, and well protected.
I think for the farm, maybe at higher levels it can a structure able to be
hit up for restocking supply wagons, or maybe a mercantile instead, since,
that is what they do.
The construction thing is doable to a certain point. It is just trying to
deal with the ai being not really able to handle the same level of real time
choices a human can handle. Heck, Siri cant handle real time sometimes,
lol.
I don’t know. I will try to see what I can do with it.
Does the item thing sound all right?
al
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From: ian-reeds-games-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ian-reeds-games-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Zak Claassen
Sent: Friday, March 17, 2017 2:05 PM
To: ian-reeds-games@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ian-reeds-games] Re: best laid plans of mice and ogres
It would be sad to lose some of those things because the AI can't use
them properly, they sound like they could make the game rather
interesting. I'm sure it'll be fun to play regardless though.
On 3/16/17, Monkey <murtagh69.monkeys@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
That's good to know! Hopefully there isn't an issue. There shouldn't
be, considering how basic it is but.
On 3/15/17, Allan Thompson <allan1.thompson@xxxxxxx> wrote:
I will do that, but so far I haven’t run into any problems. I still
have
to
test out just a few things but so far it works perfect.
al
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[mailto:ian-reeds-games-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Monkey
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 9:46 PM
To: ian-reeds-games@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ian-reeds-games] Re: best laid plans of mice and ogres
Allan, send me a poke before you release this with any feedback on
that script, so I can fix any bugs you might find before I release it
to the public.
Please and thank you.
On 3/15/17, Allan Thompson <allan1.thompson@xxxxxxx> wrote:
My resource ideas and building ideas are justnot going to work. The AI
I
still just a bit too simple to have the ability to build more then one
building of the same kind. The whole engineer thing worked. I can send
out
these guys to build structures on special ground types, but it has to
be
one
per each building, unless one can start a multitude of buildings.
The actual building process itself is a mess as well. I just don't
think
I
can make it work and still make the thing any fun.
The good news is that being able to level up all units will be done
thru
effects. It is the same amount of work files, but it prevents the rare
problems of transforming clones that can happen. It is cery rare now,
but
it
still happens , especially if one just zips thru a round of feedback
like
I
do.
The sylvan elves are preety neat. They have special woodland/forest
bonuses,
thanks to monkey, and they feature some neat units. One is a tree ent
artillery unit, that can also do melee attacks.
Others are a mountain lion llight cavalry unit, and a giant eagle
heavy
cavalry unit that can drop rocks onto enemies, but can also attack
normally.
al
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