** Hastings Rock Radio **
No problem, pleased it all appears to be fixed now and thanks for the
input in helping me track it down.
On Mon, 23 May 2022 12:23:47 +0000
nick apps <nick_apps@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Me too all good now it seems , thankyou jon.
Nick .
From: rick cousins<mailto:rcousin.cousin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: 23 May 2022 09:49
To: hrock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:hrock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [Hastings Rock] Re: OAS Occurrence
Hi Jon
I'm pleased to report that nothing untoward happened when loading
tracks during my programme yesterday. Anything "unexpected" which may
have occurred was down to "user error" and my fault entirely!
Thanks for your patient and expert attention to this.
Keep rockin!
Wreck Triumph
From: hrock-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <hrock-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> on
behalf of jon bird <hrock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: 22 May 2022
18:36 To: hrock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <hrock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [Hastings Rock] Re: OAS Occurrence
** Hastings Rock Radio **
Looking through the logs for the last 3 days, I've not seen any
re-occurrence of this problem so unless anyone tells me differently I
believe it is now fixed.
On Thu, 19 May 2022 19:46:44 +0100
Tony Bell <tony@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
** Hastings Rock Radio **
Brilliant Jon,
Looking forward to the detailed instructions the making Tea 😊…
Seriously though excellent work
Cheers
Tony Bell
On 19 May 2022, at 19:32, jon bird <hrock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
** Hastings Rock Radio **
For those not on the WhatsApp group (or not paying attention...) I
have identified a particular sequence of events which can trigger
this behaviour.
Details: https://www.oasw.co.uk/trac/ticket/467#comment:10
On the one hand, this sort of makes sense as to why it seems very
prevalent with SimonV, a couple of years back he specifically
wanted this type of feature, he's aware now that it exists (it
didn't back in 2019) and therefore is quite possibly making use
of it. Whereas probably not many others are so it doesn't crop up.
On the other hand, it doesn't line up with anything Rick has told
me about how he uses the package....
Aside, a lot of what I do often involves trying to get people to
explain very clearly in simple steps what they do and it's a
fairly common that we all do so much sub-consciously, we struggle
to do it. My wife (former teacher) tells me one of the things
they used to get kids to do is explain in clear steps how to say,
make a cup of tea or toast and most of them would forget to
mention key things like taking the mug of the shelf or getting
the knife out of the draw to butter the toast....
Anyway, am planning on rolling the update out later this evening
then we'll see if it does indeed fix the problem all round or
whether there are further gremlins in there.
Thanks for the help thus far anyway.
On Thu, 19 May 2022 11:15:10 +0100
Tony Bell <tony@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Perhaps a rebranding for you then Rick:
Good afternoon everyone, welcome the the Wreck Triumph show
🤣🤣
Cheers
Tony Bell
On 19 May 2022, at 10:31, rick cousins
<rcousin.cousin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi Jon
I will test and report, as you suggest.
As an observation, I seem to have a distinct talent for
discovering ingenious ways to mess up anything which everyone
else does without trouble! grin
Bring on Sunday's 3 hours of chaos and incompetence, aka "Rick
Triumph in the Afternoon".
Cheers
Rick
From: hrock-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <hrock-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> on
behalf of jon bird <hrock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: 18 May
2022 17:22 To: hrock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <hrock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [Hastings Rock] Re: OAS Occurrence
** Hastings Rock Radio **
Hi Rick,
Again, useful stuff to know that you're seeing a distinct
pattern of behaviour. Can I just double check the exact steps
here:
Specifically, when I double-click the mouse direct on a track
from the Daytime playlist it loads into the next available slot
on the relevant player. Subsequent to playing that track, and
on my next visit to the playlist, it will have changed colour
to denote "played". All as expected.
So this would essentially be:
1. Press the "Load" button
2. Double click the next track to load (appears in the panel)
3. Click OK
4. Press "Play"
All is well.
And in this case:
Conversely, if I single left-click the mouse on a track then
left click on the "play" button, although it loads in the
relevant slot without problem, and after playing it disappears
from the player and appears on the recently played list
between the players, as you'd expect. However, on my next
visit to load from the playlist, that very same recently
played track is the same colour as the remaining
"available" (i.e. unplayed) tracks, as are any others which
were selected in the same way. This could be awkward, and may
catch out the unwary.
1. Press the "Load" button
2. Select (so single left click) the next track to load
3. Click OK - track appears in panel
4. Press "Play"
And in this scenario, next time you "Load" the track, it's
showing as unplayed?
It would be interesting, if next time around you tried the
latter a couple of times and just took note as to whether the
name of the playlist appears in each of the panels - as
highlighted in the link I sent earlier.
Rgs,
Jon.
On Wed, 18 May 2022 13:37:04 +0000
rick cousins <rcousin.cousin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi Jon
Thanks for your comprehensive answer.
To perhaps help you further than my rather rambling earlier
post (which was done in a hurry at work)...
Specifically, when I double-click the mouse direct on a track
from the Daytime playlist it loads into the next available slot
on the relevant player. Subsequent to playing that track, and
on my next visit to the playlist, it will have changed colour
to denote "played". All as expected.
Conversely, if I single left-click the mouse on a track then
left click on the "play" button, although it loads in the
relevant slot without problem, and after playing it disappears
from the player and appears on the recently played list
between the players, as you'd expect. However, on my next
visit to load from the playlist, that very same recently
played track is the same colour as the remaining
"available" (i.e. unplayed) tracks, as are any others which
were selected in the same way. This could be awkward, and may
catch out the unwary.
To summarize, I recommend the first method outlined above as
the most reliable and will try to use it in my next show,
which is the last one for me this year.
Hopefully, this might help you nail it.
Rick
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From: hrock-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <hrock-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
on behalf of jon bird <hrock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: 17
May 2022 19:35 To: hrock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <hrock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [Hastings Rock] Re: OAS Occurrence
** Hastings Rock Radio **
Hi Rick,
That sounds exactly like the problem that has been plaguing us.
And any info on how you use the system, no matter how trivial
it sounds is useful.
My best guess at the moment (and it is very much that) is that
it does seem to be related to how people use the software.
Quite often when perusing the music logs, particularly on
weekdays, it looks like Simon on breakfast gets a lot of these
cropping up yet for the rest of the day maybe one or two. I
was actually looking at them when you were on air Sunday and
noted you'd had an awful lot of them cropping up as well. So
it does suggest that both of you are maybe doing something
that everyone else maybe doesn't do as much which is tripping
the problem. But what that is, I don't know....
This is also why I was keen for people to keep an eye on the
info presented in the panels:
https://www.oasw.co.uk/trac/ticket/467#comment:5
Your show would have been interesting to see but unfortunately
Nick decided to turn off the option that displayed the playlist
name (he's been suitably told off.....)
Somewhere along the line, the track seems to have "lost" it's
association with the playlist - which is why we're getting this
problem. Seeing whether it disappears from one of those panels
may help to figure out where it's getting lost.
Rgs,
Jon.
On Tue, 17 May 2022 10:35:37 +0000
rick cousins <rcousin.cousin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi Jon
I mentioned a similar thing to Nick, but subtly different to
Ralph's experience; when I select the next playlist track with
a single click, then right click on play it loads okay. But
when I next go to playlist, although I know the one before has
been played, it hasn't changed colour which indicates to me
that it hasn't been played. However, if I double click on a
track it immediately loads as do others on the list if I do a
multiple selection, and on my next visit they have changed
colour.
It's an anomaly which could catch a a DJ out, if they haven't
been paying attention!
Sorry if this just complicates things further, but it may help
you figure out what's going on.
Rick
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From: hrock-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <hrock-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
on behalf of Ralph <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: 16 May
2022 21:05 To: hrock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <hrock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: jon bird <hrock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [Hastings Rock] OAS Occurrence
** Hastings Rock Radio **
Hi Jon. This happened this afternoon. I’m not sure if it’s the
same that Nick has been on about or not. So. I clicked on the
load button and the next track came up automatically as it
always does. Then pressed play to put it in the top of the
player, as you do. It never reached the top player. It
vanished. When I went to load again it was sitting there but
showed up as played. I tried it again. It went through the
correct motions until I tried to put it in the top player. As
per the video. It was a track marked Blue so a New Music
track. About 5:16/17 pm.
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