> I can't copy and paste text back and forth, > they're sluggish to respond, the key shortcuts don't work as I > expect... yes, that all depends from the biggest problem Linux has: fragmentation, which, in this case, means:" when I port an application, which toolkit should I rely on?" one uses gtk, another qt, and so there's no consistency, plus a lot of other problems... (the problem also belongs to other areas, like creating device drivers: every class has its own method for dealing with drivers, and also there are exceptions inside single classes!) that's why I started looking to OpenBeOS: it is a very well organized project, and people here understood the importance of avoiding fragmentation (while Linux people tend to like it, for the sake of choice :) > What I'm getting at is that I think if OBOS wants to > be a good GUI experience, it should rely on native programs and > not ported GUIs. maybe wxWindows will make a good job for us :) it is a set of libraries which rely on native toolkits, so it could use OpenBeOS' one... :) (btw, OBOS should have sizer-based widget positioning, but Michael Phipps told me that one of the next releases could have them :) > Plus, OpenOffice just doesn't have the uniqueness I expect from > Be. :) I asked the KOffice people, but porting a program strongly based on Qt and KDE becomes impossible; AbiWord is only a word processor, and it would take years to build the spreadsheet, presentation and database modules; GoBeProductive will cease to exist, and their products will change name and will be sold for Windows and Linux, but no BeOS... OpenOffice is the only alternative for the moment, although I don't like its personal user interface and its weight - but we must use some office suite to attract people to OBOS... developing some BeSuite sounds nice, but it would take a lot of years and developers: KOffice was born in 1998 and has about 50 people working on interfaces, inners and filters, and it began being really usable only one year ago... bye :) p.s.: does OBOS/BeOS support anything like OLE, Bonobo or KParts, i.e.: embedding other programs' components? Marco Zanon [http://www.marcozanon.com]