I say, make it an option. You can leave it as default (trash holds files til you manually delete them) or select “Empty Trash Immediately”, which, of course, should come in two sub-flavors: “Delete files immediately (no warning)” and “Delete files immediately (with warning)”. “With warning” prompts the user every time they throw something in the trash, “Are you absolutely certain you wish to delete these files? Click on [Ok], to delete or [Cancel] to undo this action.” The Atari ST was notorious for the “everything that goes into the trash, is incinerated.”, no warning permanent file deletion. Once I got a Power Macintosh 6100/60, I learned to appreciate “the trash can is like a real one... stuff put in it, is there until it’s emptied.” I personally like having the option to undo my file trashing. It’s rarely been done, but I’d hate to accidentally throw something away and have no recourse afterwards. From: PHilip RUshik Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 11:15 PM To: haiku@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [haiku] Re: Removing Tracker's Trash options On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 6:02 PM, Rimas Kudelis <rq@xxxxxx> wrote: Hi Humdinger, 2013.01.20 10:47, Humdinger wrote: > after a recent change in the logic of the Trash options in Tracker's > preferences, we had a short discussion [1] if those options are > actually needed at all. The option concerns moving deleted items to > Trash first or delete them directly for good. From the above > discussion: > >> In general, I wonder how many people deactivate the Trash... It's a >> safety net I sure wouldn't want to miss. It's still possible to >> consciously do SHIFT+DEL to bypass the Trash, which I do sometimes. >> And >> I should mention that quite a few times, I've regretted holding SHIFT >> a >> split second after the icon has disappeared... :) > Everyone pretty much agreed. > Mind you, we'd keep that option "DontMoveFilesToTrash false" in the > settings file for now, it'll only be removed in the Tracker preference > GUI. I'd say go ahead and remove support for that option altogether. Or alternatively, make it appear in the UI only when it is in effect, so that the user could turn it off easily. Hiding the option regardless of its state might cause a bit of confusion, IMO. Regards, Rimas > [1] //www.freelists.org/post/haiku-commits/haiku-hrev45134-srckitstracker, > 4 I like when my computer does what I say. If I say delete, I prefer that it deletes. I delete usually to free space, moving to trash does not do that. On Haiku, I rarely have that issue since I don't store large files on my Haiku partition, but I still don't move files to trash. On linux, I usually delete from the command line to bypass the trash. My 2 cents. I like skipping the trash. --Phil