First of all, there is no reason for outright hostility and language. Second, I can only do so much. I discussed the name with Michael and some of the other project leads. Michael suggested posting the quesiton to the community at large. I told him IO was against the idea until we have a much smaller list to work from. I have been in contact with another CDT member with marketing experience with branding at this level. It's a slow process as you can well imagine. I'm sorry this isn't as fun as it was when Guy was running things but we weren't making ANY progress then. Until I can get Michael to make some decisions about the name I can't do anything other than have those interested in working on R1 icons do so. Even then I have my own reservations as I would like the branding and icons to fit visually. I will try to push Michael to make some decisions and make them fast but my hands are tied until he does pick a name. On that, I have tried to get people in the CDT involved in this process b ut I have heard very little. In a group of 40+ people, only 7-9 have been active to any reasonable degree. I find this disturbing and my guess is many of these people were in it because it sounded kewl not because thy had any experience in design or much interest in actually working. As for the web posting, I'll see if I can get Michael to remove the naming question from the OBOS site. I agree that this shouldn't be a free for all with names being picked from random. If you have any suggestions, however, please speak up. Stuart McCoy stubear@xxxxxxxxx http://www.meltingcrayons.com/stubear -----Original Message----- From: openbeos-cdt-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:openbeos-cdt-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Kristof Polleunis aka BeAdingo Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 11:42 AM To: openbeos-cdt@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [openbeos-cdt] Pick a name?!? What the f'ck is going on here. Two weeks of silence and now this, now the entire community is suggesting names at random! Real professionalism this is. I'm starting to get tired of working this way. Stuart I'm considering resigning from the CDT-team. All of the suggestions and work send to this mailinglist is being thrown out the window. What's the point of chosing names at random??? There's no point, it only makes the process harder. Now we have to screen all these names forcopyrights, check if the domains are taken, verify if they have no insulting meaning... etc. A hundred times at least I pointed out the reasons for setting up some rules when choosing names. What to avoid, what to take in account when a choice is made etc? So why are we starting over and over again, just to find out what we already now??? What's next? Submit your logo or your icons? I start to wonder why we have CDT at all. I'm not saying the community should not be involved, they should but not like this. Stuart I want some info here: - Why is this published on the OBOS site and why aren't we told about this? - I'd like to know what your plans are for our team, so I can decide whether it's worthwile for me to participate or not in the future. - Why is there no communication here? Kristof aka BeAdingo __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com