Hi Rich -- As I said, both WindowEyes and Jaws use Microsoft's MSAA interface (that's "Microsoft Active Accessibility") which is probably what the object is that is passed to jaws. But WE uses it also, as I said, so unless firefox has that put in, it won't work well on windows -- but I think it is a relatively simple matter for a programmer to put it in. And since it is open source, if no one else has time to do it, I am available at the moment for such things and am a programmer. Does anyone know the language the source code is written in? Thanks and take care! --le ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich Caloggero" <rjc@xxxxxxx> To: <guispeak@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 1:31 PM Subject: [guispeak] Re: Firefox 1.0 >I wonder about this... > > Its been a while since I've looked at the JFW scripts for IE, but from > what > I remember, there is a call that is made to get an object which is > thereafter used for much of the information the screen reader extracts > from > the DOM. The object is the document object of the current page (if memory > serves). So, unless jfw and Firefox can cooperate enough to be able to > hand > this object off to Jaws, then JFW access to Firefox will probably be about > as good as IE access with virtual mode turned off (i.e., not very)... > > I suspect Window-Eyes will work better right out of the box. I''m not a > window-eyes user, but may have the opportunity to try this in the next > couple weeks. I'll let the list know how it goes. > > -- rich > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bundy, Keith" <Keith.Bundy@xxxxxxx> > To: <guispeak@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <vicug-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 1:00 PM > Subject: [guispeak] Firefox 1.0 > > >> Below is an article that appeared a few days ago. I am wondering if >> anyone has already tried this program with a screen reader. >> >> >> Free Firefox 1.0 ready to battle MSIE >> >> By Joseph Menn >> Los Angeles Times >> >> published: 11/9/2004 >> >> Early editions of browser have lured 10 million former Microsoft users >> >> Get ready for Browser Wars: The Sequel. >> >> Six years after Microsoft Corp.'s Internet Explorer defeated Netscape >> Navigator in the signature fight of the online age, a direct descendant >> of the pioneering >> Web browser is exacting a small measure of revenge. >> >> The nonprofit Mozilla Foundation today will release Firefox 1.0, a free >> browser based on Netscape's technology but improved through the years by >> thousands >> of volunteer programmers. It's the first version intended for a wide >> audience. >> >> Earlier editions of Firefox attracted millions of users fed up with the >> viruses and spyware that increasingly exploit Internet Explorer's flaws >> to infect >> computers. >> >> After a series of security warnings this year, Explorer's share of the >> U.S. browser market slid from more than 95 percent in June to less than >> 93 percent >> last month, according to Internet consultant WebSideStory. Most of those >> computer users went to Firefox. >> >> A drop of a couple of percentage points may not sound like much, but >> globally, it represents more than 10 million people who have dumped the >> world's largest >> software maker in favor of an outfit with 10 full-time employees. >> >> It's part of a broader move toward so-called open-source software, which >> has Microsoft on the defensive. In the most visible part of that trend, >> many big >> corporations and everyday users alike are powering their computers with >> the free operating system Linux, encroaching on Microsoft's lucrative >> Windows franchise. >> >> Browsers have been free for a long time. But analysts say Firefox has >> special significance because it could open many more eyes to the >> possibilities of >> open-source software. >> >> Users like Firefox because it works about as fast as Explorer, adds >> features such as multiple-window browsing and presents a less tempting >> target for hackers. >> Users also can change the way it works, for example, by barring all >> images so that the text on Web pages appears more quickly. Most but not >> all sites can >> be visited with Firefox. >> >> "It's actually quite intuitive, and it's very fast," said Shekhar >> Venkataraman, an intensive-care doctor in Pittsburgh who has been using >> the Mozilla browser >> for more than a year. >> >> Milton Blackstone, a retired TV writer and producer, said he turned to >> Firefox after he became fed up with Explorer's frequent unexplained >> crashes. Although >> he complained he has had trouble following Web links in e-mails, >> Blackstone said he was glad he made the switch. >> >> "I think it's thought-out," said Blackstone, a resident of the San Diego >> community of La Jolla. "I have a lot of respect for Mozilla." >> >> As with Linux, the complicated computer code powering Firefox is freely >> available for any programmer to examine, improve and pass along. Fans of >> open-source >> software say that sort of continuous review makes the programs stronger >> and more reliable. >> >> Because anyone can read the Firefox code, hackers could create malicious >> programs the way they do with Explorer - and some have. But because >> thousands of >> volunteer programmers also can see any potential problems, they can >> respond quickly to plug security holes. >> >> "Given enough eyeballs, all bugs are shallow," says Eric Raymond, >> president of the nonprofit Open Source Initiative, which promotes the >> development and >> distribution of open-source software. >> >> Firefox grew out of a 1998 project at Netscape Communications Corp. to >> make the browser's underlying code public. It was released in a preview >> version in >> February and has been downloaded from www.mozilla.org as frequently as >> 250,000 times a day. >> >> Keith Bundy >> Director of Student Development >> Dakota State University >> 605-256-5121 >> Email: Keith.Bundy@xxxxxxx >> http://departments.dsu.edu/bundyk >> >> >> >> > >