[guidedogchat] Re: Bad habits
- From: "Norman Waddington" <normanwaddington504@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <guidedogchat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2014 11:25:15 -0000
Julia,
Itt is believed that they were used when creating the Golden. This would
account for similarities in both breeds. It is quite uncertain as to the
exact origin of the dogs used when creating the Goldens.
Norman.
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[mailto:guidedogchat-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of J Kimbell
Sent: 05 March 2002 23:24
To: guidedogchat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [guidedogchat] Re: Bad habits
No, its a separate breed. They look similar to Goldens but are a bit m ore
stremalined in their body, less chucky plus they have a more refined head, a
longer muzzle, and the head less blunt. They are always either black or
liver in colour. The blacks usually have some liver highlights in their cot,
usually on the legs, you tend only to see it whent he suns hines on them.
they also have a single coat as opposed t5o a double as Labs and Goldens do,
just means they dont have an undercoat, the same as most spaniels. Means
they dry off a lot quicker. They arent used much as guide dogs, then tend to
come in fits and starts as it were. They tend to be somewhat mental!! Which
is why some are rejected. So not as placid as your average Golden seems to
be these days, though thats only a generalisation, as I meet some loopy
Goldens, but you dont meet placid Flatties!! They arent for everyone as
they can be tricky to handle and are on the sensitive side, but if you can
handle them they are brilliant. I control Wren mostly by voice because she
is sensitive to too much physical correction, though she does get the
occasionjal hefty harness correction, but as time has gone by and we've
settled down together voice is all I do need. She had awful dog distraction
at first but that has improved hugely now, just me gaining confidence in my
handling abilites and Wren learning I wont be messed around with. She is a
veryloyal dog though. they arent a very common breed even as pets. Their
coats are long underneath as in Spaniels and slightly less long on top. Only
dog for me as a guide now I think. My GDMI and I have already discussed me
having another when she retires, in about 6 years time. She said Wren may
just have to retire early, if I really want another Flattie. We will see.
Julia
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From: pam <mailto:pamyoung80@xxxxxxxxx>
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Cc: <mailto:guidedogchat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx%3e> <guidedogchat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2014 11:48 AM
Subject: [guidedogchat] Re: Bad habits
julia
just curious. what's the difference between a flat coated retriever and
other retrievers? is it just a coat thing?
pam
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On 5 Mar 2002, at 22:23, "J Kimbell" <whitetiger62@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I've never had a serious eater thankfully. But I've mostly had Collies and
Collie crosses, who arent generally known for being eaters!! My current dog
is a Flatter and she isnt much of an eater either thankfully. Doesnt mean to
say she wouldnt of course, but at least is not a problem I need to worry
about.
Julia
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From: Fay Marshall <mailto:fmkc@xxxxxxxxx>
To: guidedogchat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2014 10:51 AM
Subject: [guidedogchat] Re: Bad habits
Well, my dog ate rocks, bricks, etc. I would think wood is better. (grin)
Never broke her of it.
From: pam <mailto:pamyoung80@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2014 4:04 AM
To: guidedogchat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: guidedogchat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [guidedogchat] Re: Bad habits
well my dog has a bad habit of eating sticks which make her sick a few hours
later and can't be good for her. she only does this on a free run never when
working. i've tried giving her toys to play with to distract her but it
doesn't really work she just goes back to eating the sticks. my instructor
said the only real solution is to find another free run area but where i
live is all woods so that's not really possible. so if anyone has any tips
for me on how to resolve this i'd b very grateful. other than that she's a
very good dog. happy new year :)
pam
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On 4 Jan 2014, at 02:45, Vincent Thacker <vince@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Nadine,
I can't exactly call them resolutions, but I want to work on a couple of
things with my dog that spoil an otherwise happy partnership. One is
scavenging, and the other is improving his recall, which has improved then
got worse again.
With the scavenging, I suppose I'll have to go through the food refusal
stuff we did in initial training. As I haven't got spare food to throw
around very often because I eat it too fast for it to go off! I'll have to
use bits of his kibble. If I can get him to walk past some outside, he can
have a treat. Hmm, food-related problem, rewarding him with food, wonder if
there's a better idea?
And his recall was getting really good at one stage, then one day he ran off
and although there were people about, nobody could tell me where he'd gone.
He did wonder back towards home eventually, but this was really worrying,
and I'd called the police and the dog wardens. I'm glad to say he was
brought home within a few minutes, but it worried me so much he hasn't had a
free run properly since. I take him around the field on a flexi-lead, and
he's got the idea now that he can run about quite a bit even with the
restrictions of the lead, but it's not as good as a real free run. I don't
have a pair of eyes available to me at the moment, and no longer employ a
Personal Assistant as I did before, so I'll have to do loads of obedience
stuff while he's on the flexi-lead in the hope that I'll be able to let him
go eventually. The other answer is to find a safer place to let him go, but
the only one I know of is miles away. No doubt we'll have a lot of fun with
whistles and treats and all that.
Apart from that, he's such a good worker, I just want to keep the good bits.
We went to town yesterday and went all around Sainsbury's with Zym waiting
patiently whenever I stopped to faff about. He was really excellent, even
among the mad crowds rushing about to the sales or whatever they were doing.
It was a long walk in and out, well, long enough at about 3 miles each way,
and he's got a very good idea even knowing which paths to take through the
park to go in the right direction. When he's good he's very, very good.
Vince.
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Message Received: Jan 04 2014, 02:00 AM
From: "Melanie Akpotu"
To: guidedogchat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc:
Subject: [guidedogchat] Re: Bad habits
Sounds nice!
Mel.
-----Original Message-----
From: Nadine Lattimore
Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2014 10:29 PM
To: guidedogchat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [guidedogchat] Bad habits
Hi to all a happy new year if you recognise the calendar change at this
time.
Well it being the first few days of the new year now, I wonder has
anyone made any resolutions to include furry friend- such as more
walks, more grooms, fewer treats etc?
Had a wonderful Christmas and New Year in Lanzarote with Quartz, he
met all his friends, remembered his routes and had a lovely lazy time
with plenty of love and treats.
Nadine Lattimore
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