[guidedogchat] Re: Bad habits

  • From: "J Kimbell" <whitetiger62@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <guidedogchat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 23:23:47 -0000

No, its a separate breed. They look similar to Goldens but are a bit m ore 
stremalined in their body, less chucky plus they have a more refined head, a 
longer muzzle, and the head less blunt. They are always either black or liver 
in colour. The blacks usually have some liver highlights in their cot, usually 
on the legs, you tend only to see it whent he suns hines on them. they also 
have a single coat as opposed t5o a double as Labs and Goldens do, just means 
they dont have an undercoat, the same as most spaniels. Means they dry off a 
lot quicker. They arent used much as guide dogs, then tend to come in fits and 
starts as it were. They tend to be somewhat mental!! Which is why some are 
rejected. So not as placid as your average Golden seems to be these days, 
though thats only a generalisation, as I meet some loopy Goldens, but you dont 
meet placid Flatties!!  They arent for everyone as they can be tricky to handle 
and are on the sensitive side, but if you can handle them they are brilliant. I 
control Wren mostly by voice because she is sensitive to too much physical 
correction, though she does get the occasionjal hefty harness correction, but 
as time has gone by and we've settled down together voice is all I do need. She 
had awful dog distraction at first but that has improved hugely now, just me 
gaining confidence in my handling abilites and Wren learning I wont be messed 
around with. She is a veryloyal dog though. they arent a very common breed even 
as pets. Their coats are long underneath as in Spaniels and slightly less long 
on top. Only dog for me as a guide now I think. My GDMI and I have already 
discussed me having another when she retires, in about 6 years time.  She said 
Wren may just have to retire early, if I really want another Flattie. We will 
see.
Julia

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: pam 
  To: guidedogchat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Cc: <guidedogchat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
  Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2014 11:48 AM
  Subject: [guidedogchat] Re: Bad habits


  julia
  just curious. what's the difference between a flat coated retriever and other 
retrievers? is it just a coat thing?
  pam

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  On 5 Mar 2002, at 22:23, "J Kimbell" <whitetiger62@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


    I've never had a serious eater thankfully. But I've mostly had Collies and 
Collie crosses, who arent generally known for being eaters!! My current dog is 
a Flatter and she isnt much of an eater either thankfully. Doesnt mean to say 
she wouldnt of course, but at least is not a  problem I need to worry about.
    Julia

      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Fay Marshall 
      To: guidedogchat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
      Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2014 10:51 AM
      Subject: [guidedogchat] Re: Bad habits


      Well, my dog ate rocks, bricks, etc.  I would think wood is better.  
(grin)  Never broke her of it.  

      From: pam 
      Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2014 4:04 AM
      To: guidedogchat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
      Cc: guidedogchat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
      Subject: [guidedogchat] Re: Bad habits

      well my dog has a bad habit of eating sticks which make her sick a few 
hours later and can't be good for her. she only does this on a free run never 
when working. i've tried giving her toys to play with to distract her but it 
doesn't really work she just goes back to eating the sticks. my instructor said 
the only real solution is to find another free run area but where i live is all 
woods so that's not really possible. so if anyone has any tips for me on how to 
resolve this i'd b very grateful. other than that she's a very good dog. happy 
new year :)
      pam 

      Sent from my iPhone

      On 4 Jan 2014, at 02:45, Vincent Thacker <vince@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
wrote:


        Nadine,

        I can't exactly call them resolutions, but I want to work on a couple 
of things with my dog that spoil an otherwise happy partnership. One is 
scavenging, and the other is improving his recall, which has improved then got 
worse again.

        With the scavenging, I suppose I'll have to go through the food refusal 
stuff we did in initial training. As I haven't got spare food to throw around 
very often because I eat it too fast for it to go off! I'll have to use bits of 
his kibble. If I can get him to walk past some outside, he can have a treat. 
Hmm, food-related problem, rewarding him with food, wonder if there's a better 
idea?

        And his recall was getting really good at one stage, then one day he 
ran off and although there were people about, nobody could tell me where he'd 
gone. He did wonder back towards home eventually, but this was really worrying, 
and I'd called the police and the dog wardens. I'm glad to say he was brought 
home within a few minutes, but it worried me so much he hasn't had a free run 
properly since. I take him around the field on a flexi-lead, and he's got the 
idea now that he can run about quite a bit even with the restrictions of the 
lead, but it's not as good as a real free run. I don't have a pair of eyes 
available to me at the moment, and no longer employ a Personal Assistant as I 
did before, so I'll have to do loads of obedience stuff while he's on the 
flexi-lead in the hope that I'll be able to let him go eventually. The other 
answer is to find a safer place to let him go, but the only one I know of is 
miles away. No doubt we'll have a lot of fun with whistles and treats and all 
that.

        Apart from that, he's such a good worker, I just want to keep the good 
bits. We went to town yesterday and went all around Sainsbury's with Zym 
waiting patiently whenever I stopped to faff about. He was really excellent, 
even among the mad crowds rushing about to the sales or whatever they were 
doing. It was a long walk in and out, well, long enough at about 3 miles each 
way, and he's got a very good idea even knowing which paths to take through the 
park to go in the right direction. When he's good he's very, very good.

        Vince.











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          Message Received: Jan 04 2014, 02:00 AM
          From: "Melanie Akpotu" 
          To: guidedogchat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
          Cc: 
          Subject: [guidedogchat] Re: Bad habits

          Sounds nice!

          Mel.

          -----Original Message----- 
          From: Nadine Lattimore
          Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2014 10:29 PM
          To: guidedogchat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
          Subject: [guidedogchat] Bad habits

          Hi to all a happy new year if you recognise the calendar change at 
this 
          time.

          Well it being the first few days of the new year now, I wonder has
          anyone made any resolutions to include furry friend- such as more
          walks, more grooms, fewer treats etc?

          Had a wonderful Christmas and New Year in Lanzarote with Quartz, he
          met all his friends, remembered his routes and had a lovely lazy time
          with plenty of love and treats.

          Nadine Lattimore 






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