No, not on a vista. For right now I'm just editing my policies from the other machine. When I tried to set the policy that Alan suggested, I got ALL the options back, in several different languages. So I guess that is a step in the right direction. Thank you for your help on this! For the immediate I will just edit from the other machine. (poor resolution, I know, but I have to get my terminal server up and running!! :) In that vein I'm going to pose some other questions to you helpful folks. ________________________________ From: Alan & Margaret [mailto:syspro@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 6:37 AM To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [gptalk] Re: Group Policy Editing: Missing default Administrative templates Another thought.... are you on a Vista machine? If so it may be a problem with your ADMX files causing the ADM files to be ignored? Alan Cuthbertson Policy Management Software:- http://www.sysprosoft.com/index.php?ref=activedir&f=pol_summary.shtml ADM Template Editor:- http://www.sysprosoft.com/index.php?ref=activedir&f=adm_summary.shtml Policy Log Reporter(Free) http://www.sysprosoft.com/index.php?ref=activedir&f=policyreporter.shtml ________________________________ From: Alan & Margaret [mailto:syspro@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, 24 June 2008 9:03 AM To: 'gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: RE: [gptalk] Re: Group Policy Editing: Missing default Administrative templates So... It works correctly for all GPO's when viewed on one machine, but shows nothing for all GPO's when viewed from another machine, Re adding the ADM templates doesn't help. I presume you are using the same user id in each case and so security on the files would not be an issue. Darren's suggestion that it is looking locally is a possibility, but would require the local templates to be corrupt as well. Check the machine registry Key "Software\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\Group Policy" for a value OnlyUseLocalAdminFiles. If present, delete it (note: It may return after a policy refresh if it is set by Policy). It is a long shot, but you may wish to navigate to the actual adm file from the failing machine to just confirm you can read the files using notepad. They are on the sysvol under \\domainname\sysvol\policies\domainname\guid\ADM <file:///\\domainname\sysvol\policies\domainname\guid\ADM> where guid is the guid for a particular policy. If that doesn't fix it I would try reinstalling GPMC Alan Cuthbertson Policy Management Software:- http://www.sysprosoft.com/index.php?ref=activedir&f=pol_summary.shtml ADM Template Editor:- http://www.sysprosoft.com/index.php?ref=activedir&f=adm_summary.shtml Policy Log Reporter(Free) http://www.sysprosoft.com/index.php?ref=activedir&f=policyreporter.shtml -----Original Message----- From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Savanah Garrison Sent: Tuesday, 24 June 2008 6:37 AM To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [gptalk] Re: Group Policy Editing: Missing default Administrative templates OK. I have now tried this too. I have them installed on a different server, and they show up fine on that server. I tried re-installing on the original server, but they show up the same. -----Original Message----- From: Nelson, Jamie [mailto:Jamie.Nelson@xxxxxxx] Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 12:10 PM To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [gptalk] Re: Group Policy Editing: Missing default Administrative templates Okay, you re-installed them on a GPO, but if the templates are corrupt in the first place that won't do any good. You should try completely overwriting what is in your C:\WINDOWS\inf folder with a fresh install from the link I provided below. Jamie Nelson | Infrastructure Consultant | BI&T Operations | Devon Energy | Work: 405.552.8054 | http://www.dvn.com -----Original Message----- From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Savanah Garrison Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 11:11 AM To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [gptalk] Re: Group Policy Editing: Missing default Administrative templates I have already re-added the templates manually. It goes through the process just fine, it asks if I want to copy over the current template. I agree, but when I close, the template still is not visible. -----Original Message----- From: Nelson, Jamie [mailto:Jamie.Nelson@xxxxxxx] Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 10:54 AM To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [gptalk] Re: Group Policy Editing: Missing default Administrative templates Suggest you re-download the ADM templates for your local machine and see if that helps at all. You can do so from the following link: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=92759D4B-7112-4 B6C-AD4A-BBF3802A5C9B&displaylang=en Regards, Jamie Nelson | Infrastructure Consultant | BI&T Operations | Devon Energy | Work: 405.552.8054 | http://www.dvn.com -----Original Message----- From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Savanah Garrison Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 10:39 AM To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [gptalk] Re: Group Policy Editing: Missing default Administrative templates I have gone to Administrative Templates --> View --> Filtering and changed settings there to no effect. Is there somewhere else I can check for filtering? How do I correct it if GP Editor is looking on my local machine instead of in the sysvol? Thank you! -----Original Message----- From: Darren Mar-Elia [mailto:darren@xxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 10:31 AM To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [gptalk] Re: Group Policy Editing: Missing default Administrative templates There's two possibilities here. The first is that you have GPEditor somehow stuck into filtering something like showing only those policies that are configured or for a certain OS. The other possibility is that you have configured the policy whereby GP Editor only looks on your local machine in c:\windows\inf for ADMs and not in the SYSVOL part of the GPO, AND your local ADM store is incomplete. That would be my best guess. Darren -----Original Message----- From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Savanah Garrison Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 8:25 AM To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [gptalk] Re: Group Policy Editing: Missing default Administrative templates It is happening regardless of the one I edit. Even our old long standing default policy only has 'Windows Components' listed under Admin Templates. -----Original Message----- From: Nelson, Jamie [mailto:Jamie.Nelson@xxxxxxx] Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 9:00 AM To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [gptalk] Re: Group Policy Editing: Missing default Administrative templates Is it just a particular GPO or is it happening regardless of which one you edit? Jamie Nelson | Infrastructure Consultant | BI&T Operations | Devon Energy | Work: 405.552.8054 | http://www.dvn.com <http://www.dvn.com/> From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Savanah Garrison Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2008 8:23 PM To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [gptalk] Group Policy Editing: Missing default Adminitrative templates When I go into my Group Policy Object Editor my default administrative templates are not showing up. I go to administrative templates, but the only thing listed under that is WIndows Components (even under that is incomplete). I have tried manually to add templates back, but they still will not show up. I have checked the filtered views, and that does not help. I have had this issue a few weeks ago, but then the issue strangely just went away and I was able to view all my templates again. Now the problem is back. I have not made any changes. I was happily editing my policy, then I closed it, re-opened it, and I could no longer see all my templates. Thanks! CONFIDENTIAL NOTICE: This electronic transmission and any documents or other writings sent with it constitute confidential information intended only for the named recipient. If you have received this communication in error, do not read it. Please reply to the sender that you have received the message in error, then delete the message. 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