From: tools@xxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tools@xxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 8:30 AM To: 'gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: RE: [gptalk] Re: GPO applicability when not connected to a network/domain You're correct-policies don't refresh unless there is a change, or unless you modify this default behavior by forcing a refresh on every processing cycle. I know some people that do this for IE Maintenance policy as a matter of course because its so flaky. So, yes, if your users wanted, they could undo their proxy while at work with that reg file. Though presumably they would not be able to get internet access if they did that? Darren From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Shane Williford Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 8:20 AM To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [gptalk] Re: GPO applicability when not connected to a network/domain Darren, In regards to the issue I have below, let me ask this - I have created a .reg file for my laptop users to run that will disable proxy settings while not on the network (e.g. for when they're at home). The danger in doing this of course is the fact they may run it while at work, thus disabling the GPO proxy settings I have. My question is this: if from what I've read on your site and seen in numerous dialogs is correct, GPs don't 'refresh' (i.e reapply) every so often, UNLESS they change.is that correct? So, if my laptop users were to do something ignorant like run this reg file I created while at work, their IE Proxy settings would remain disabled until they rebooted? (or does a simple log-off refresh policies?) Thanks. Shane _____ From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Darren Mar-Elia Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 6:22 PM To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [gptalk] Re: GPO applicability when not connected to a network/domain Right. GP settings do stick. They are not unapplied when the machine is not on the domain, by design. So there is no way, using GP, to have them un-apply when the machine is not in contact with a DC. From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Shane Williford Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 4:18 PM To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [gptalk] Re: GPO applicability when not connected to a network/domain Darren, Thank you for the quick reply. OK, so let me see if I got this straight - you're saying that GP does NOT apply if a computer (in this case, a laptop) is not connected to a domain (and thus authenticating to a DC)? For me, that's is exactly what I want. But, what I gather is that the GP settings that applied while connected to the domain "stick"? (I think I read that somewhere in your FAQs...those are awesome, btw) Yeah, I didn't want to have to script something, if possible. Our last proxy setup was done that way and I wanted to 'clean up' our log-in script, so I removed the proxy settings. I may have to go back to that, which isn't a horrible thing, but certainly not how I prefer as I'm not a scripting guru by any means. Shane -----Original Message----- From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Darren Mar-Elia Sent: Tue 2/12/2008 5:41 PM To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Cc: Subject: [gptalk] Re: GPO applicability when not connected to a network/domain Shane- Thanks for joining the list. Unfortunately, I don't have good news for you. Policy is not applied if a computer is not in contact with a DC. So, there is no way (other than Windows Firewall profiles) to have conditional policies in effect based on being on or off the network. Even mucking with the local GPO won't work for domain joined PCs because if those PCs are not in contact with a DC, they simply ignore any changes you try to make to the local GPO (to preserve domain precedence). Sorry about that. One thing you can probably do is write a script that enables and disables the proxy and put a shortcut to it on their desktop, with instructions to use it when they are at home. I've done that sort of thing in the past and, while not elegant, works. Darren From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Shane Williford Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 1:45 PM To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [gptalk] GPO applicability when not connected to a network/domain "GPO Guy", Thank you for the great website!...VERY informative! I was wondering if you could lead me to the Microsoft documentation (and if you could answer) explaining if GPOs get applied to computers (laptops) not connected to a domain/network. I have set some IE settings for our organization, and have a group that use laptops and work remotely (from home) at times. I want them to be able to not have the proxy configurations while not connected to the network. Is there a way to configure GP to not apply when not connected to the network (other than creating a local policy setting for IE)? Thanks for all your help! Shane M. Williford Systems Administrator MCSE, MCSA Sec, Sec+, Net+, A+ Mazuma Credit Union shane.williford@xxxxxxxxxx 816-361-4194 x6012 Notice: The information transmitted in this e-mail may contain confidential and/or legally privileged information intended only for the use of the individual(s) named above. Review, use, disclosure, distribution, or forwarding of this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient(s) is prohibited by law and may subject them to criminal or civil liabilities. Statements and opinion expressed in this e-mail may not represent those of Mazuma Credit Union. 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