[gha] Re: [gha-peace] Re: New list for all of us? ++ Bruce and Glen are not members of the GHA, they both are the enemies of GHA and CIA agents
- From: María Cristina Azcona <mcrisazcona@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: gha <gha@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2014 14:10:44 -0300
Out of my email till August
*María Cristina Azcona*
*@macazcona*
*María Cristina Azcona*
2014-07-02 14:06 GMT-03:00 Роксана Садыкова <roksana.sadykova@xxxxxxxxx>:
> Dear members of the GHA!
> I join all those who call for peace and respect in GHA! However, I do not
> understand how calls to change the president GHA or calls to create a new
> union can lead to peace and harmony in the GHA?
> Please, let us appreciate and respect each other, appreciate and respect
> Leo as the founder and ideological inspiration of our organization, restore
> respectful, creative atmosphere in the GHA to safely complete work on the
> book. Although we are all from different countries, from different
> cultures, and many of us do not even know each other personally, but in
> fact we are all united in the spirit, we are brothers and sisters in spirit
> and only together we can bring peace!
>
> Sincerely, Roxana Sadykova
>
> GHA Ambassador of Peace and Disarmament of Harmony in Russia, Journalist
>
> Address: Ufa, Republic Of Bashkortostan
>
> E-mail: roksana.sadykova@xxxxxxxxx
>
>
> 2014-07-02 23:05 GMT+06:00 María Cristina Azcona <mcrisazcona@xxxxxxxxx>:
>
>> Out of my email till August
>>
>>
>> *María Cristina Azcona*
>> *@macazcona*
>>
>>
>> *María Cristina Azcona*
>>
>>
>> 2014-07-02 5:12 GMT-03:00 Leo Semashko <leo.semashko@xxxxxxxxx>:
>>
>> Bruce, (I do not want to name you even "dear" for the reasons below)
>>>
>>> 1. Glen and you - *are not the members of the GHA*, you are excluded
>>> from the GHA, you are the aliens for GHA because you aim to destroy GPS,
>>> GHA and me personally, neglecting my bad health with all your American
>>> tales of "compassion." *You both are the enemies of GHA*.
>>>
>>> 2. *Glen is the undercover CIA agent, and you, Bruce - his little
>>> puppet, marionette and stooge*. Both of you are doing the job of the
>>> CIA to destroy GPS, GHA and me personally. You are not peacekeepers but
>>> warlords and terrorists. You serve the main militarist and the gendarme of
>>> the world - the United States empire.
>>>
>>> 3. *You, Bruce, personally showed himself as Judas-traitor to all
>>> members of the GHA three times*, you are constantly lying, so you long
>>> lost our trust. We do not want to have anything to do with you. Please
>>> exclude our emails from your email list.
>>>
>>> 4. *All email addresses of GHA, as itself name GHA (gha) are the
>>> property of GHA that exists 10 years*. *You do not have any ownership
>>> rights to them*. *Close all these addresses!* They do not belong to
>>> you, they belong to GHA. If you use them, you'll be a *thief*. If you
>>> want to create a new organization and a new email address - it is your
>>> right. *BUT YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO USE NAME GHA IN ANY FORM AND IN ANY
>>> PART*.
>>>
>>> 5. Ivan Ivanov is the GHA technical director, co-founder and Vice
>>> President of the GHA for 10 years. He is not my brother - *this is your
>>> next false fiction*.
>>>
>>> 6. If you have retained the remnants of decency and morality, please,
>>> release us from your presence in the GHA, eliminate our emails from your
>>> mail *and do not interfere us with our peace work* to create our GPS.
>>>
>>> 7. Dear GHA members,
>>> *I call all of you to ignore all messages from Bruce and Glen as the GHA
>>> enemies and as CIA agents*. GHA is working for peace and not for the
>>> CIA as a warlord and the first enemy of peace!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Contrary to all the enemies of peace, we continue our work with GPS as
>>> the main weapon against war! *Best harmony wishes,
>>>
>>> Leo
>>>
>>> Dr Leo Semashko:
>>> Founding President, Global Harmony Association (GHA) since 2005;
>>> Director, GHA Website "Peace from Harmony": www.peacefromharmony.org
>>> Global Peace Science from Harmony:
>>> www.peacefromharmony.org/?cat=en_c&key=585
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Bruce Cook, gha@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> To: leo.semashko@xxxxxxxxx
>>> Sent: 1 июля 2014 г., 22:08:40
>>> Subject: [gha] New list for all of us?
>>>
>>> Dear gha members,
>>> On the basis of Leo's continuing refusal to address problems of academic
>>> credibility and civility in gha, and his demand to control the mailing
>>> list his brother Ivan started, I suggest this...
>>> (In any event, I suspect that Leo's brother will leave your address on
>>> hjs new list unless you might be critical of Leo.)
>>> Please let me know, individually, whether to...
>>> 1. Delete your address from the main gha list I originally created.
>>> 2. Delete your name from a new list being compiled as the basis for a
>>> new, credible, association for peace. (Name and leadership - preferably
>>> a woman - not determined yet.)
>>> Incidentally, I am still eager to help Leo by editing his book, but
>>> (as indicated earlier), this offer is conditional on his resignation as
>>> leader of gha.
>>> I truly regret this. I had hoped that Leo would have been willing to
>>> address the important questions he is avoiding. I still like and respect
>>> Leo the way I remember him before his change in disposition a few months
>>> ago.
>>> Yours in peace,
>>> Bruce
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jun 29, 2014 3:05 PM, "Martin, Glen T" <gmartin@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> Dear Maria,
>>> Why not just let GHA be, but start a new list for those of us who are
>>> not willing to have a leader who disrespects and abuses anyone who
>>> disagrees with him? Some will be on both lists but perhaps many will be on
>>> just the non-abuse list. Bruce suggests that the new group have a woman
>>> President. How about you? I think you would be a great President for a
>>> global peace group.
>>> Warmest wishes,
>>> Glen
>>>
>>>
>>> *Dr. Glen T. Martin *
>>> President, World Constitution and Parliament Association (WCPA)
>>> www.worldparliament-gov.org
>>> President, Institute on World Problems (IOWP) www.worldproblems.net
>>> Professor, Philosophy and Peace Studies, Radford University
>>> www.radford.edu/gmartin
>>> Laureate, GUSI Peace Prize International
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear Bruce,
>>>
>>> You have once again demonstrated that *your words and promises we
>>> cannot trust, so you are not able to be a leader*. You promised to all
>>> members of the GHA edit texts of GPS *two days ago*, *and now you have
>>> found a reason to abandon it*. You have shown yourself as puppet of
>>> Glen, CIA agent, who wants to destroy GPS, GHA and me.
>>>
>>> *Regarding your “solution” - I do not trust it, it's a lie*. My first
>>> goal is to publish in January 2015 the GPS book. Until that time, I will
>>> not do anything else. The question of a change of leadership in the GHA I
>>> will put in February 2015, I will resign from the GHA President what I said
>>> a long time. *This question will be considered, I repeat, only in
>>> February*.
>>>
>>> About you. If you do not edit texts of GPS, you will be excluded from
>>> it. I can communicate with you only at this condition.
>>>
>>> I repeat once again for all: *I will only talk on the subject of GPS*,
>>> the third chapter of which I will send to the GHA discussion in the coming
>>> weeks. *Other questions I will not answer now*.
>>>
>>> Last. The email addresses relatively. *I demand from you, Bruce, to
>>> close this address*: gha@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <gha-peace@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> as now
>>> is opened new address: gha-peace@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, which I appointed
>>> moderator Ivan. *This is LEGAL address*. You, Bruce, are debarred from
>>> the GHA moderator post. GHA only uses this new address. *All other GHA
>>> addresses on this (@freelists.org <gha-peace@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>) server are
>>> illegal*.
>>>
>>> Best harmony wishes,
>>>
>>> Leo
>>>
>>> Dr Leo Semashko:
>>> State Councillor of St. Petersburg,
>>> Philosopher, Sociologist and Peacemaker from Harmony;
>>> Director: Tetrasociology Public Institute, Russia;
>>> Founding President, Global Harmony Association (GHA) since 2005;
>>> Director, GHA Website "Peace from Harmony": www.peacefromharmony.org
>>> Global Peace Science from Harmony:
>>> www.peacefromharmony.org/?cat=en_c&key=585
>>>
>>> *PS.* *I have to inform everyone that due to the extreme shortage of
>>> time for GPS, my bad health and vision (I can only read the large font), I
>>> will not read and respond to any letters, except GPS. I ask to understand
>>> and forgive me for it*.
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: 'Bruce Cook, AuthorMe.com' cookcomm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> [peace-from-harmony], peace-from-harmony@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> To: leo.semashko@xxxxxxxxx
>>> Sent: 30 июня 2014 г., 21:42:36
>>> Subject: (peace from harmony) Re: [gha-peace] Apologies
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear, Leo, everyone,
>>>
>>> Thanks for writing in response to my apologies.
>>>
>>> (I am also responding to your follow-up question...
>>> Dear Bruce,
>>>
>>> Please, let me know how many days you need to edit my text (11 pages) in
>>> attachment and when I could send you for editing the GPS third chapter?
>>> I ask you again to close your address: gha@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, as now works
>>> the new address: gha-peace@xxxxxxxxxxxxx. Could you do this to avoid
>>> duplication of letters? Thank you,
>>>
>>> Please, let us to solve all technical and editing questions in personal
>>> manner. Do you agree with it?
>>>
>>> With love, best harmony wishes,
>>>
>>> Leo
>>>
>>> Please, let us to solve all technical and editing questions in personal
>>> manner. Do you agree with it?
>>> With love, best harmony wishes,
>>> Leo
>>> When I agreed to edit the book (and your critique of Glen you wanted to
>>> add), I had hoped that you would freely respond to the real issues that
>>> have been raised in regard to gha in recent days. Especially, I had hoped
>>> you would address the question of whether you would continue your personal
>>> attacks on members (e.g., Nina, Norm Kurland, Bob Crane, myself, Lida,
>>> etc.) and the questions of ethics and academic rigor (upon which the
>>> credibility of gha now rests).
>>>
>>> Instead, I see that you are ignoring these important questions and
>>> trying to limit discussion to whether I will edit your attack on Glen and
>>> when, etc. along with a "probational" restoration of my leadership of the
>>> USA group you basically severed ties with during your fundraising campaign.
>>> Further I understand that you want me am to delete the gha list I created
>>> for you (for which I freely sent the address to your brother Ivan, which he
>>> quickly copied to his new gha-peace@xxxxxxxxxxxxx) and I guess I'm
>>> supposed to be naive enough to think that after I delete the gha list Ivan
>>> won't delete my name fromm his new list.
>>>
>>> I think, in oppressive governments, those actions come under the heading
>>> of information management and censorship. And, truly, oppressive
>>> governments seldom support harmony and peace.
>>>
>>> I propose this solution:
>>>
>>> You and I, both, conditionally upon the other, renounce our leadership
>>> positions in gha. As I recall, when I first joined the group, you told me
>>> you would like to transfer your position to another person after a year.
>>> Here's our chance. Let's pull out and invite nominations of a woman to lead
>>> the group, subject to affirmative vote by individual members. Then, after
>>> the change is made, the new leader can decide on the need for other
>>> positions in leadership, again using affirmative vote by individual
>>> members. That will free you and I from the administrative dilemma that now
>>> confronts gha and we can focus our efforts on developing the book as you
>>> have suggested. I would look forward to that.
>>>
>>> Please let us know whether you are willing to step aside as the groups's
>>> leader. In any case, you will always be respected as the founder , much as
>>> Prof. Galtung is remembered for founding PRIO in Oslo. If indeed, you truly
>>> care for the group rather than personal power, etc., your resignation as
>>> President will fully demonstrate your love for gha, and peace and harmony.
>>>
>>> If you are unable to accomplish that level of humility and trust, please
>>> at least address the important questions of personal attacks, ethics, and
>>> academic rigor so we can move on. I believe it is now futile for any of us
>>> to continue ignoring those questions.
>>>
>>> Yours in Peace,
>>>
>>> Bruce
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, June 29, 2014 4:41 AM, "Leo Semashko leo.semashko@xxxxxxxxx
>>> [peace-from-harmony]" <peace-from-harmony@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bruce,
>>>
>>> I like your apologies from your forest and I am ready to acknowledge
>>> them and apologize to you, in turn, if you publicly acknowledge your
>>> readiness edit all texts of GPS, as you promised, including 11 pages of my
>>> response to Glenn.
>>>
>>> Are you ready to edit it? Your consent in it will be the best practice
>>> meditation of restoring our cooperation. But it is a key condition. Are you
>>> recognized it?
>>>
>>> PS. Let me remind everyone that I receive and answer e-mails *only* through
>>> new email GHA:
>>> *gha-peace@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <gha-peace@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>*. Other letters I do
>>> not get, do not read and do not answer.
>>>
>>> Best harmony wishes,
>>>
>>> Leo
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: 'cookcomm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' <'cookcomm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> cookcomm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [peace-from-harmony],
>>> peace-from-harmony@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> To: leo.semashko@xxxxxxxxx
>>> Sent: 28 июня 2014 г., 23:02:14
>>> Subject: (peace from harmony)
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: 'cookcomm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' <'cookcomm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> cookcomm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [peace-from-harmony],
>>> peace-from-harmony@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> To: leo.semashko@xxxxxxxxx
>>> Sent: 28 июня 2014 г., 23:02:14
>>> Subject: (peace from harmony)
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear members,
>>> I will do my best to write you all from my cell phone at a forest
>>> campsite where I am tenting with my family.
>>> Lest I be unfair, please accept my apologies for the following.
>>> First, I apologize for suggesting that gha begin to operate in a manner
>>> consistent with standard academic rigor, similar to credible academic
>>> organizations and research institutions worldwide. For details see my email
>>> to Lida in her generous attempt to meditate, below . (Sorry, I tried to
>>> copy and paste the main part, but could not do this on my cell phone.)
>>> Second I humbly apologize for any personal criticism of Leo as a person,
>>> for I still regard him as a friend and colleague in peace. He is our
>>> founder and surely deserves our respect. Further, I apologize for
>>> suggesting that his actions might be immature and predictable.
>>> I appeal to Leo and everyone to speak up and take this issue seriously
>>> in an attempt to make gha successful and well respected in academic
>>> circles. My purpose in this dialogue had always been to improve gha, which
>>> I love.
>>> Yours in Peace,
>>> Bruce
>>>
>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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