Philip M This is clearly a spoof or posited by someone who doesn't understand that any fool would notice that the Sun was lower in the sky than he'd ever seen before on the winter solstice. Also, anyone standing on the Tropic of Capricorn on the southern Summer Solstice would notice the Sun passing to his south on that date. Paul D ----- Original Message ---- From: philip madsen <pma15027@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, 7 April, 2008 7:10:03 AM Subject: [geocentrism] earth tilt Sounds like an april fools joke.. but I put it up as an exercise to consider whilst we wait for Regner's full answer to our claim number 1. From the helio perspective.. of course.. What would really happen to the length of our days and nights over a full year ... I'm trying without success to imagine what would happen if the axis was at 90 degrees.. the earth would still translate , countries on the equator would have permanent...the poles a very long hot summer and cold winter I give up.. Philip.. AxialTilt.jpg (154932 bytes)" src="http://divulgence.net/26d_increase_AxialTilt_small.jpg"; width=400 align=left border=2> Get the name you always wanted with the new y7mail email address. www.yahoo7.com.au/y7mail