[geocentrism] addresses
- From: "philip madsen" <pma15027@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 11:04:14 +1000
Re the cancellation of my list addresses
Neville if it is not done please relax and cancel my application for a while I
see problems needing to be sorted.. that I forgot about.. Philip
----- Original Message -----
From: Steven Jones
To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 8:33 AM
Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Dinosaurs
It will be a very deep topic if you want to continue, we seem to have
fused psychology, science, spirituality, emotions, love, evolution and
dinosaurs combined with a little music all in one! Verdi, yes he is ok,
but the beer songs, not my taste!
Feel free. I affirm by saying this, the heart should not be repressed.
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 22:40:58 +0100, philip madsen
<pma15027@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Nice letter Steven.. Mind you I had tongue in cheek on the floating
> dinosaurs.. Maybe I should have used a crocodile rather than a Lizard..
> So in practical terms all the dinos if there were any, died with the
> flood. Then there is the evidence of the frozen mastodons in
> Siberia... allegedly extinct 10,000years ago.
>
> Steven I have another correspondent who is always on about " the heart"
> which I interpret as emotionally inclined. Their heart rules their
> head..... glands rule the Brain. I consider this to be a racial trait.
> Huns (I must descend from them) can control this weakness. Latins ,
> cannot, and always react in an uncontrollable way, sometimes killing
> things or people who get in the way. Maybe Arabs jews and blacks
> likewise.
>
> I was trained from birth to kill the heart, and resist even the
> slightest tendency to display such a weakness as emotion.. Its always
> been easy. The true meaning of heart in spiritual terms is the soul as
> "centre" of the human psyche, and this can be controlled or affected by
> the glands of emotion, or the will of the mind. It is only through this
> latter action that charitas, (love of God) can be truely attained, and
> must come first, before any charism, if allowed , can be deserved.
>
> But not entirely... I have no argument with the emotional heights one
> can reach when listening to Verdi, my favourite of the classics.. Not
> to mention of course those stirring German beer drinking songs.. which
> make me friendly with all my enemies, after the beer of course..
>
> Philip.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Steven Jones
> To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 5:45 AM
> Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Dinosaurs
>
>
> Flood like conditions that you say a dinosaur could ride out for a
> year:
>
> http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=F3_u5KrcsPQ
>
> Here a cruise liner (without engines) has entered beam sea, the most
> dangerous sitation for any boat. Bare in mind, this is not a “North
> Atlantic Storm”.
>
> Steven.
>
> On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 20:14:51 +0100, Steven Jones <midclyth@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
> > Sorry Phillip, but to suggest that dinosaurs didn’t need to board the
> > ark because they could survive the ocean is simply untenable. Whilst
> > it’s true modern secular knowledge believes that many species bathed
> in
> > water and even almost totally submersed themselves, it is in much the
> > same way that Elephants and Hippopotamus’s do in modern day Africa.
> Put
> > simply, that is to say that they either need a supporting riverbed
> > underneath their feet (security) or they can “paddle” but not for
> long.
> > Take Brachiosaurus for example, coming in at about 35 tonnes
> > (Christiansen 1997), built for land, and a very slow mover, there is
> > simply no way this creatures morphology could cope with being out in
> an
> > ocean for long, ask yourself how long a modern day African elephant
> > would last if air-lifted and placed in the sea? A terrible cruelty of
> > course, and instead you expect me to believe that an 82-feet beast
> can
> > ride out the floodwaters for almost a year? What about it’s food?
> > Brachiosaurus ate no fish; his long slender neck was used for pine
> and
> > other type trees, crunching needles and all that with powerful molars
> > “built” for such.
> >
> > Regarding developing from a little lizard, sorry too, but there are
> no
> > connection links. We are expected to believe that fish that could
> barely
> > walk would somehow develop into all the vast and complex animal types
> > that are dinosaurs? I would be very dubious of a dinosaur missing
> link.
> > There is much forgery in the world of dinosaurs as it is, let alone
> > this. “New” species have already come into being in the past by
> simply
> > mixing and matching bones. Remember too, many of these fossils have
> to
> > be constructed and different constructors will of course have
> different
> > ideas. The bones are not always found in order. Even how they should
> > stand has changed, Iguanodon for example, is a classic illustration.
> I
> > believe the modern view to be correct, but it highlights different
> > interpretations. In short, all of this bone pick-and-mixing is
> > deceiving, and there is no real evidence for any evolution amongst
> the
> > dinosaurs anywhere. I’ve even forgotten to mention the financial
> drive
> > too of putting more “exotic” creatures on displays in the museums of
> the
> > 19th century. The famous “bone wars” of ED Cope and OC Marsh, is a
> great
> > example. Two businessmen shaping American science, with perhaps
> forgery
> > at the best of times, but did it make money? It’s sad when people
> spend
> > their lives studying the fossils of forgery’s, Piltdown man has been
> > shown to be a hoax now say, but for those that studied him? Well,
> they
> > just can’t let go.
> >
> > Open your eyes to divine design Phillip, it’s simple and clear to
> see.
> > And what about the spirit? How do evolutionists explain this? We are
> > according to them only physical, some kind of chemical conglomerate
> > thinking machine, but that is rubbish. We have a heart, a spirit,
> and a
> > soul. My own experiences prove there is a God, but your probably
> > unlikely to receive anything without the right heart. God desires
> each
> > and everyone of us to seek him out and we must be looking in the
> first
> > place. Music to me too is deeply spiritual. And composers have always
> > been striving for new sounds and ideas, at the cutting edge of
> > innovation, that innovation did not spring about by chance. Even
> > wind-chimes (which I find annoying anyway) are thought out to be less
> > intrusive. It could be a pentatonic scale so the notes are less
> likely
> > to clash, what if it were pure chaos I ask you? Do you think it will
> be
> > worthy of notation?
> >
> > Steven.
> >
> >
> > On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 22:00:29 +0100, philip madsen
> <joyphil@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Dinosaurs would not need to have gotten onto the ark now Steven
> would
> >> they? Wern't they natural water beasts? They could have floated
> around
> >> on the sea eating fish, which likewise suffered little from the
> flood.
> >>
> >> Just wondering. But then maybe they developed from a little lizard,
> >> which Noah could easily have accomodated. You see we can accept
> Darwins
> >> theory, in that Tigers developed after the flood from Mrs. Noah's
> pussy
> >> cat.
> >>
> >> Lets all keep in mind as well that fossil dating is pure guess
> work...
> >>
> >> Philip.
> >> Mastodons
> >> The American mastodon (scientific name Mammut americanum) roamed
> North
> >> America from at least 3.75 million to 11,000 years ago. Mastodons,
> >> along with mammoths and modern elephants, are members of the order
> >> Proboscidea. As adults they stood between 2.5 and 3 meters (8-10
> feet)
> >> at the shoulder and weighed betweeen 3500 and 5400 kilograms (4-6
> tons).
> >>
> >> Mastodons became extinct approximately 11,000 years ago. Today,
> >> paleontologists are trying to understand why.
> >>
> >> But, but but....
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: Steven Jones
> >> To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2007 2:39 AM
> >> Subject: [geocentrism] Dinosaurs
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi All,
> >>
> >> Just while we’re touching upon the topic of dinosaurs, I would
> like
> >> to say
> >> I was once a very big hobbyist concerning them, collecting vast
> >> quantities
> >> of secular data and both reading and learning it avidly. But,
> times
> >> haves
> >> changed rathRe: [geocentrism] Re: Evolutioner substantially, I was
> >> significantly younger then and I’ve grown in spirit concerning
> God.
> >> The
> >> following statement I hope is not too radical, but I have come to
> >> question
> >> many of the species labeled as "dinosaurs" entirely. After all,
> how
> >> many
> >> of you have actually seen a real fossilized dinosaur skeleton? The
> >> answer
> >> is probably none, since almost every museum has only plaster
> casts on
> >> display. This all suggests a rather large mass conspiracy, but
> how do
> >> the
> >> skeletons look so realistic you ask? It’s often mooted in the
> secular
> >> world that birds descended the evolutionary path from dinosaurs,
> why
> >> do
> >> they believe such? It’s simple, because many dinosaur fossils have
> >> similar
> >> structures to birds. Could this not be because the plastercasts
> are
> >> really
> >> based upon birds in the first place. Meet the real Tyrannosaurus
> rex,
> >> probably an enlarged chicken skeleton, with a massive skull and
> tail
> >> added
> >> plus two pointless little arms. This, iconic and typical
> “ultimate”
> >> monster is so similar to those "classic" beasts and dragons
> dreamed
> >> up by
> >> man’s imagination that perhaps it is only an element of the
> >> imagination.
> >> And don’t be fooled into thinking this 5-7 tonne beast is an agile
> >> hunter,
> >> because it does have some serious flaws with it’s morphology. The
> >> balancing act required for that huge skull, the pointless little
> arms
> >> which can’t even pick teeth and even the art of getting up after
> >> sleeping
> >> are all a bit suspicious. Computer models have demonstrated I
> believe
> >> that
> >> this is not an easy balancing act. Any beast seeing the site of
> those
> >> teeth coming along would be away as fast as lightning, making
> hunting
> >> nearly impossible, don't believe 35 mph, sorry, even modern
> results
> >> are
> >> showing 17.9 mph at best. You'll need RealPlayer for the computer
> >> simulation video link below:
> >>
> >>
>
http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/check/player/nol/newsid_6950000/newsid_6958000?redirect=6958025.stm&news=1&nbwm=1&nbram=1&bbwm=1&bbram=1&asb=1
> >>
> >> Anyway, there are only thoughts for the time being, but it is
> >> interesting
> >> to further add that it wasn’t always the case that dinosaurs were
> >> thought
> >> to have lived and “ruled the Earth” in their own right 65,000,000
> >> years
> >> ago. Many museums of the 19th century put abundant evidence of the
> >> co-existence of dinosaurs and man on display. If someone is going
> to
> >> challenge me on this, they are most welcome.
> >>
> >> Former dinosaur expert,
> >>
> >> Steven.
> >>
> >>
> >>
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