Dinosaurs would not need to have gotten onto the ark now Steven would they? Wern't they natural water beasts? They could have floated around on the sea eating fish, which likewise suffered little from the flood. Just wondering. But then maybe they developed from a little lizard, which Noah could easily have accomodated. You see we can accept Darwins theory, in that Tigers developed after the flood from Mrs. Noah's pussy cat. Lets all keep in mind as well that fossil dating is pure guess work... Philip. Mastodons The American mastodon (scientific name Mammut americanum) roamed North America from at least 3.75 million to 11,000 years ago. Mastodons, along with mammoths and modern elephants, are members of the order Proboscidea. As adults they stood between 2.5 and 3 meters (8-10 feet) at the shoulder and weighed betweeen 3500 and 5400 kilograms (4-6 tons). Mastodons became extinct approximately 11,000 years ago. Today, paleontologists are trying to understand why. But, but but.... ----- Original Message ----- From: Steven Jones To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2007 2:39 AM Subject: [geocentrism] Dinosaurs Hi All, Just while we’re touching upon the topic of dinosaurs, I would like to say I was once a very big hobbyist concerning them, collecting vast quantities of secular data and both reading and learning it avidly. But, times haves changed rathRe: [geocentrism] Re: Evolutioner substantially, I was significantly younger then and I’ve grown in spirit concerning God. The following statement I hope is not too radical, but I have come to question many of the species labeled as "dinosaurs" entirely. After all, how many of you have actually seen a real fossilized dinosaur skeleton? The answer is probably none, since almost every museum has only plaster casts on display. This all suggests a rather large mass conspiracy, but how do the skeletons look so realistic you ask? It’s often mooted in the secular world that birds descended the evolutionary path from dinosaurs, why do they believe such? It’s simple, because many dinosaur fossils have similar structures to birds. Could this not be because the plastercasts are really based upon birds in the first place. Meet the real Tyrannosaurus rex, probably an enlarged chicken skeleton, with a massive skull and tail added plus two pointless little arms. This, iconic and typical “ultimate” monster is so similar to those "classic" beasts and dragons dreamed up by man’s imagination that perhaps it is only an element of the imagination. And don’t be fooled into thinking this 5-7 tonne beast is an agile hunter, because it does have some serious flaws with it’s morphology. The balancing act required for that huge skull, the pointless little arms which can’t even pick teeth and even the art of getting up after sleeping are all a bit suspicious. Computer models have demonstrated I believe that this is not an easy balancing act. Any beast seeing the site of those teeth coming along would be away as fast as lightning, making hunting nearly impossible, don't believe 35 mph, sorry, even modern results are showing 17.9 mph at best. You'll need RealPlayer for the computer simulation video link below: http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/check/player/nol/newsid_6950000/newsid_6958000?redirect=6958025.stm&news=1&nbwm=1&nbram=1&bbwm=1&bbram=1&asb=1 Anyway, there are only thoughts for the time being, but it is interesting to further add that it wasn’t always the case that dinosaurs were thought to have lived and “ruled the Earth” in their own right 65,000,000 years ago. Many museums of the 19th century put abundant evidence of the co-existence of dinosaurs and man on display. If someone is going to challenge me on this, they are most welcome. Former dinosaur expert, Steven. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.28/1021 - Release Date: 21/09/2007 2:02 PM