[geocentrism] Re: What is Mass and what is inertia caused by
- From: "philip madsen" <pma15027@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 16:55:55 +1000
Objection to what has been said below before.
Take a moon of Jupiter orbitting the planet.
How does it maintain a neat circular orbit whilst being subjected to this
Rotating aether, which out at jupiter is massively fast.
Answer. Jupiter is rotating with the aether and all the cosmos. Jupiters moon
therefore does not "see" any problem of being cut by the aether by any other
motion than its own around its primary. Newton is satisfied as I said before.
The analogy is a boat rowing around a larger vessel as both are swept along by
the tide.
any more?
Philip.
----- Original Message -----
From: philip madsen
To: geocentrism list
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 3:50 PM
Subject: [geocentrism] What is Mass and what is inertia caused by
What is Mass and what is inertia caused by? Nobody can say anything other
than it being a natural property of matter. Any fool can see that.. I said why?
Why does it have this property? I can hypothesise...
The Cosmos "orbits" the stationary earth.
Now notice I used the word "orbit" in quotation marks, because under my
explanation of geocentrism, the cosmos does not consist of individual bodies
orbiting the world. This might lead to confusion if that were so, and implies
the application of Newtons laws which are obviously impossible given the size
of this universe.
Please note that I accept the heliocentric dynamics as real and applicable
within this, their system. The framework of my cosmos , if you like, is
rotating with a 24hour period around the central world, and Newton applies
everywhere relative to and within this frame.
How?
The entire cosmos is loosely imbedded within the aether, as a unit which we
could call space, and it is this unit which rotates around the world. So you
see this is not quite the same as individual orbiters.
Within this rotating frame, the world does exhibit the properties of a 24
hour rotation. The moon does exhibit properties of a 28 day orbit of the earth.
And all of the mechanics of all the planetary and satellite motions are
dynamically satisfied according to Newtonian physics. A launch from earth does
gain an advantage by being launched towards the east.
For all of this to be acceptable, It is required that the aether be a real
entity.
It is required that the properties of all inertia of mass is due to its
relative motion to this aether. Anywhere in space. In other words all the
properties of mass and motion (inertia) and acceleration, angular momentum are
aether dependent.
The following sounds quite contrary to science, and it has to be, if we are
to find a reasonable explanation for the geostationary satellite which exists
in the heliocentric frame as an orbiting moving body, whilst actually being
stationary in reality.
Taking a body in space, which has an apparent angular momentum around the
world, lets consider it in light of the above.
Motion as a property of the movement of mass only exists relative to the
aether. Thus a body to be stationary in the aether must be synchronised with
the sun and rotate with the aether and the cosmos. It has no property of
motion, no centrifugal force, and will thus fall to the earth, if in the
influence of earths gravity. That happens.
The geostationary satellite is set in a position that is stationary relative
to the earth, but it has a 24 hour rotation RELATIVE to the aether. I like to
say it is cutting the aether, analogous to a conductor cutting magnetic lines
of force.
Therefore relative to the aether and the heliocentric frame model, it has the
necessary "property inherent to motion" to give it a centrifugal force to keep
it aloft.
All of this is unique to the earth alone, and all of the other planetary
systems in space follow Newtons laws exactly as they obtain their properties of
motion through their relative movements to the aether.
Even likewise with an orbiting body in a polar orbit. this satellite will see
as expected, a rotating earth as it comes under the sinewave effect of the
rotating aether towards and away from the equator.
If you sit down and draw the vector diagrams, perhaps this may become
clearer.
Philip.
----- Original Message -----
From: Jack Lewis
To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2007 6:16 PM
Subject: [geocentrism] Re: GU 4.0
So what do you do Philip?
Jack
----- Original Message -----
From: philip madsen
To: geocentrism list
Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2007 12:55 AM
Subject: [geocentrism] Re: GU 4.0
Allen Jack.. It worked for me. So the original cannot be corrupted..
Phil
----- Original Message -----
From: Allen Daves
To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2007 12:13 AM
Subject: [geocentrism] Re: GU 4.0
Jack,
That is the problem he has been having with PP show, it is suposed to
be self contained but when sent as attachments the file gets currupted...sorry
you cant see it ...it was a animation of a geo sat launching from earth moing
in the opisite direction of the aether in larger and larger orbits, slowing
down untill it reached geo altitued where the directional velocity of the geo
sat is machted by the aether in the opisite direction........i have a gif
animator but he was trying to do this in one slide not frame by frame.........
Jack Lewis <jack.lewis@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Dear Allen,
What exactly am I supposed to see in your PP presentation? All I get
is a small view of the world and a lot type down one side. What am I doing
wrong?
Jack
----- Original Message -----
From: Allen Daves
To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2007 4:23 AM
Subject: [geocentrism] Re: GU 4.0
Neville,
I have attached a Power Point show that demonstrates a
geo-satellite concept..(i did not check the geo-sat figures for altitude I only
looked at the animation) but PP is crude and limited in its ability to show
detail like relative speeds and elliptical orbits and the nessisary transfer
orbits ...I thought i would send this as a rough example and suggest that maybe
this kinda animation be incorporated into GU 4.0 or somewhere since explaining
geo-sats in a geo- universe is difficult for many to visualize without a good
diagram or animation i think..just a suggestion i think could /would be
useful..... this was put to gether by my dad i have been showing him how to
"play" PP but he is wanting somthing to use in his classes and i suggested to
let you take a look at it and see if you wanted to do a better & or more fluid/
accurate animation at some point maybe in GU 4.0 ....but all in all he is
having alot fun with it now....:)
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