[geocentrism] Re: Reply to Robert

  • From: "Robert Bennett" <robert.bennett@xxxxxxx>
  • To: <geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 10:02:16 -0400

Philip,

I accept all you wrote below, except that, isolated here in my ivy castle, I
still struggle with finding in all the volumes written by JP2 and  Ben16  :

writings , not opposed by JP2, that contradict Christian dogmas, such as
casting doubt even on the resurrection of Jesus Christ.

the theologions he and jp2 supported, by omission?

Ah, yes omissions - things we ought to do but didn't.
Were I  to confess all my omissions, my confession would never end.

[ should we go off-line here - I hear gaping yawns]

PC,

Robert

  -----Original Message-----
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[mailto:geocentrism-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Philip
  Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 2:14 AM
  To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Reply to Robert


  Robert said,
  I assume you refer to the 90's when JPII was interpreted as apologizing to
Galileo and baptizing evolution as 'more than a hypothesis".
  Even if this spin is true, is it charitable to call an error in judgment
'deceit', which to most means the intent to deceive (same root) ?

  I chose not to bore the list with the current apostasy, or close to it.
However I do accept your point made above. My claim to deceit was not based
on the above example, but rather on his writings , not opposed by JP2, that
contradict Christian dogmas, such as casting doubt even on the resurrection
of Jesus Christ.  Not ex cathedra mind, just careless errors of judgement?
He has had enough time to denounce his words and the theologions he and jp2
supported, by omission?

   Errors of judgement are not protected by the Holy Ghost, and in a Pope do
grave harm, especially to people like Neville and Allen and Ja, who see it
as confirmation  of their false knowledge of the Church, not withstanding
the extremely grave harm it does to those poor members of the church who are
betrayed by their chief shepherd.

  Ignorance may save them, but what chance have they got if they are a
raving sexual maniac like me? " It is the sins of the flesh, that are
sending most people into Hell......."  Our Lady of Fatima.  1917.

  Philip

  ----- Original Message -----
    From: Robert Bennett
    To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 12:26 PM
    Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Reply to Robert


    Philip,

     | Wrong forum to take such liberty. But the current encumbent has had 3
months and not reversed the errors of his predecessor, but reaffirmed them
with vigour..  All the  signs are for worse to come,  and not EX Cathedra.

    I assume you refer to the 90's when JPII was interpreted as apologizing
to Galileo and baptizing evolution as 'more than a hypothesis".
    Even if this spin is true, is it charitable to call an error in judgment
'deceit', which to most means the intent to deceive (same root) ?

    Also,  when did Benny16  vigorously reaffirm these 1990 missteps? Re
evol I have heard just the opposite - e.g., the NY Times letter from
Cardinal Schoenborn, approved by the pope.    Of course I'm closer to Rome
than you are.....I think.
      Dropping dead, Well I was referring to the one who has no faith and
intends to defy the Spirit. Such as the one confirmed in Church History ,
which I have not the time at the moment to find the detail. who openly
proclaimed his intention to reverse a constant dogma, and was struck in a
terrible way before he completed the proclamation. This is well documented.
    Not that I doubt your memory, but LMK if you find the reference.
         I am stating quite firmly, The Church cannot and has never been
able to contradict herself.  Those who do not understand and deny this do
nor understand what is meant by excathedra.
    Verily, brother.

    Robert
      Philip
        ----- Original Message -----
        From: Robert Bennett
        To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 1:46 AM
        Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Saul of Tarsus.. Nick & Dan


        Brother Philip,


          If the current pope EX CATHEDRA did that he would die before
completion. It HAS BEEN been tried before. They know.. THEY DARE NOT.

        Aren't you claiming to know a little more than you could know?
Wouldn't a simple change of mind suffice, instead of death?
        In 1968 Pope Paul issue Humani Generis in opposition to
contraception, when all but 4 of his liberal periti (advising theologians)
wanted approval.  If only Pope Benedict would speak out on evolution and
relativity..... which leads to the next..

          Now he can and is saying things contradictory, which the non
thinkers follow blindly, but not real catholics. .He can safely get away
wikth that and not contradict the doctrine of infallibility..   ITS CALLED
DECEIT. ..

        It's only been 3 months and already the pope is contradicting
himself?  Indeed, can you tell us what some of the deceitful but
non-dogmatic contradictions are?
          Can you find any other Body having such a coalition against it and
surviving, even to the final persecution.

        And the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

          Philip.

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