[geocentrism] Re: Reasoning from Scripture
- From: "w.mackey" <w.mackey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 06:33:44 +0100
Dr Jones
Jack Lewis makes reference to a time when you were a Jehovah's
Witness................. is this true?
or is he merely speculating?
Respectfully
Wendy
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From: "Jack Lewis" <jandjlew@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Reasoning from Scripture
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> From: "Dr. Neville Jones" <ntj005@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2005 10:59 PM
> Subject: [geocentrism] Reasoning from Scripture
>
> > I have to admit that I feel I am wasting my time now with this forum. I
am not saying that anyone on it is an idiot, but the debate with Allen Daves
over his refusal to see reason, if you will pardon the pun, has highlighted
just how difficult it is for someone to keep an open mind and to admit when
their position has surely been shown to be wrong.
> Dear Neville,
> I think this also applies to you regarding the Trinity. At one point I
fully accepted the Trinity because that was what I was taught. Then I met
you and you sent me your 'Unitarian' paper. I do pride myself on having an
open mind - you know this to be true because of the way I accepted your
reasoning about physics and geocentrism. Having read your paper I then kept
quiet for a while occasionally asking you the odd question. I also decided
to check out with scripture and others. I have no problem listening to
others, as I did you, but I use scripture to measure what they say. In the
last few weeks the Trinity doctrine has been well thrashed out and to my
acceptance of it. I consider that I have listened to both sides and I have
come to the conclusion that the Trinity is scripturally based. Just because
the word 'Trinity' does not appear as such in the Bible, it does not mean
that it does not exist.
>
> I believe Neville that your Trinity arguments were, in your own words,
formed a long time ago. Could this have been when you were a JW? This would
also make sense as to why you have reverted to a 'Saturday' Sabbath and your
wilful false interpretation of what constitutes a 'graven image' and who
Satan is. Even though I vehemently disagree with Roman Catholic doctrine I
am finding that you are far more 'out on a limb' than they are with your
scriptural interpretation. You rejected Phil Nowland, who is a Greek and
Hebrew scholar, and his clear and concise cross referencing of Old and New
Testament scripture about the Trinity. I believe this rejection is no more
or less than you accuse others of on the forum.
>
> It is no good appealing to websites as a back-up since we all know how
'wacky most of it is. For example you refereed us to a website about the
question of whether animals had souls or not. This website was a sermon by a
minister who completely misunderstood what the 'Lamb' was in Revelation and
his negative reference to 'man's lust for meat'. This sounds like the
preaching of a card-carrying vegetarian. We all know what the Bible has to
say about unclean meat, clean meat, meat sacrificed to idols and eating
vegetables. For example vegetable eating is mentioned positively in Dan
1:12, but negatively in Rom 14:2. This man's sermon was 'wacky and a
disgrace!
>
> > We achieved a fine thing when we reasoned from the Scriptures that the
World does not rotate, but it seems that there is a great reluctance to go
any further. If this is the case, then I will not waste my time anymore. It
would be far more beneficial for me to get back to research on geocentrism.
>
> This has been suggested before, I did as well as others. A geocentricity
site and forum for geocentrics, but elsewhere for anything else.
>
> Jack
>
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