Philip M I thought that a picture would be the best way to illustrate this but having done this, it demonstrated the opposite of what the quote was saying. (See attached). You may care to look here http://www.wku.edu/~smithch/wallace/S115-116.htm where you will find this - If we look at the diagram of a sphere, and the space from the equator to the pole be divided into equal parts subtending angles of one degree each at the centre, and we then flatten the poles by cutting off a portion with a curve of greater radius, it is evident that the distance from the pole to the centre of the sphere will be shorter than before, and therefore, that degrees of latitude, measured angularly from that centre, would really diminish in length from the equator towards the poles. ... which I deduce supports my illustration. (It's not a long article and interesting from several angles, especially it comments on the method of determining latitude). Paul D ----- Original Message ---- From: philip madsen <pma15027@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, 14 March, 2008 10:35:33 PM Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Point d) I still don't have a clue what you are talking about Paul! The results showed conclusively that one degree of the meridian was longer in Lapland than at Paris and proved Newton's postulate to be correct. The expedition to Peru, the present day Ecuador departed in 1735 and returned nine years later with results that confirmed the Lapland finding, i.e. one degree of the meridian is shorter at the equator than in France. Please explain. Phil ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul Deema To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 11:52 PM Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Point d) Greetings all. I refer you all to this post - Re: Geocentrism versus Heliocentrism From Paul Deema Mon Aug 20 15:16:59 2007 ... in which the reference http://www.history.noaa.gov/stories_tales/geodetic1.html was given. High on page one, this appeared - The results showed conclusively that one degree of the meridian was longer in Lapland than at Paris and proved Newton's postulate to be correct. The expedition to Peru, the present day Ecuador departed in 1735 and returned nine years later with results that confirmed the Lapland finding, i.e. one degree of the meridian is shorter at the equator than in France. This provoked little if any response from participants here which I have come to understand is a sure fire indicator that it is true. Oh! How quickly you forget. Paul D ----- Original Message ---- From: Regner Trampedach <art@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, 14 March, 2008 6:33:42 AM Subject: [geocentrism] Point d) I'll give you point d) for free. d) "No equatorial bulge on the Earth, as would be created in the early rapidly spinning molten Earth "theory". The equatorial bulge of Jupiter is clearly seen." Earth's Equatorial Bulge The Earth has a polar radius of 6356.8km and a equatorial radius of 6378.1km - the Earth is 21.3km larger at the equator than at the poles. I believe that is an equatorial bulge. The ellipticity is (Req-Rpl)/(Req+Rpl) = 0.00335. Remember that the height differences between Mt Everest and the Mariana trench is about 8.8km + 10.9km = 19.7km so the 21.3km equatorial bulge is not insignificant. Comparison of planets of the Solar System name state ellipticity Sid rot per/[h] Eq rot speed/[km/s] Mercury solid 0.0000 1407.6 0.003025 Venus solid 0.000 -5832.5 0.001811 Earth solid 0.00335 23.9345 0.465098 Mars solid 0.00648 24.6229 0.240731 Jupiter gas 0.06487 9.9250 12.571998 Saturn gas 0.09796 10.656 9.871200 Uranus gas 0.02293 -17.24 2.587521 Neptune gas 0.01708 16.11 2.682888 Pluto solid 0.0000 -153.2928 0.013606 'Sid rot per' of that table, is the sidereal rotation period in hours (length of the day on that planet) and negative values means retrograde rotation. 'Eq rot speed' is the rotational speed at the equator of the planet, in km/s. llipticity as function of rotational speed" src="cid:1.3980498695@web23109.mail.ird.yahoo.com" width=766> Fig 5. Ellipticity of the planets as function of their equatorial rotation speed, v_eq. Gas giants are in white and solid planets in cyan. Mercury, Venus and Pluto are all bunched up at (0, 0), The dashed lines shows average relations among the two groups. Obviously there is a lot of scatter around these lines which just means there are other factors at play than v_eq - it should also be obvious, however, that v_eq is the most important factor involved. The other major factor, of course, is the acceleration of gravity at the surface of the planet.. Higher surface gravity means smaller ellipticity, since high surface gravity would make the planet rounder. The planets below the respective dashed lines do indeed have higher surface gravities than those above. Other reasons for differences between the Earth and Mars are: 1) The very large Moon means that the Earth has been able to loose angular momentum (rotation) very efficiently - 1000 times faster than Mars which is mostly affected by the Sun (Phobos and Deimos are just too small). So Mars is closer to its original rotation speed than Earth is. 2) The Earth is 1.9 times larger (in diameter) which means it's volume and heat content from the early molten stage would have been 6.6 times larger. The surface from which the planets cool would only have been 3.5 times larger - all in all, the Earth would cool 1.9 times slower than Mars. That means the Earth would have solidified only after a considerable slow-down (it would have started higher up on one of the dashed lines). 3) Earth seems to have had a collision with a Mars sized object about a 100 million years after the Solar System formed, forming the Moon - this would have greatly sped-up the Earth's rotation and remolten at least the outer layers. I realize most of you do not believe in things involving time-scales past 6000 years, so there is no need for you to point that out to me. Conclusions The Earth has an equatorial bulge commensurate with a rotation once per day (see Fig. 5). This is no proof of Earth having such a daily rotation, but do notice how all the planets that rotate much slower than Earth (Mercury, Venus and Pluto) have no measurable bulge. Regards, Regner Get the name you always wanted with the new y7mail email address. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. 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