[geocentrism] Re: Airplanes and the atmosphere

  • From: "Cheryl" <c.battles@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "Cheryl" <c.battles@xxxxxxxxxxx>, <geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 11:06:54 -0500

To add to my question below, the bird launching off the horse heading 
against the merry-go-round's rotation should be able to hover like a 
hummingbird and just wait for the third horse behind to come to it and then 
land.  Either way, the bird saves either fliying time or flying distance.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Cheryl" <c.battles@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 10:52 AM
Subject: Re: [geocentrism] Re: Airplanes and the atmosphere


> Gary -- But that's my question.  Does this law apply the same "on" the 
> earth as "off" the earth.
>
> Is it in fact true what I said about the hummingbird flying about on the 
> merry-go-round, that it would really take just as long to get to the 
> horses ahead as behind, moving against the turning merry-go-round?
>
> That's the one that would answer my question about the airplane flying 
> east to west or west to east, and why Newton's law would say it takes the 
> same amount of time going either direction.   There may be some 
> mathematical formula that says that, but if you actually had such a model 
> ON THE EARTH and tried to demonstrate that, would it in fact come out that 
> way?  So the bird riding the horse on the merry-go-round is the example 
> that could be used to prove that.  If a bird is perched on a horse going 
> around on a merry-go-round and launches off the horse and flies three 
> horses behind him and against the rotation of the merry-go-round, why 
> would not it take the bird less time to reach the third horse behind than 
> the third horse ahead?
>
> THAT's my question.
>
> Cheryl
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Gary Shelton" <garylshelton@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 9:32 AM
> Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Airplanes and the atmosphere
>
>
>> [Cheryl wrote:]
>> Gary -- Thanks for your reply.  So everything turns as a whole -- even if
>> it's not anchored to the ground.
>>
>> Would that mean that if a hummingbird was perched on one of the horses on 
>> a
>> turning merry-go-round and decided to fly up to the third horse and land
>> that it would take exactly the same amount of time as if the hummingbird
>> decided to fly to the third horse in BACK of it?
>>
>> [Gary writes:]
>>
>> Yes, but do remember metaphors are metaphors and there really isn't a one 
>> to EXACTLY match the situation of the earth in the heavens...other than 
>> the earth in the heavens!
>>
>> Also, as to Newton's First, here's an example.  A ball on the floor of a 
>> train moving at 60 mph is carried, not by the train, once in motion but 
>> the fact that it will keep moving at 60 mph until an outside force acts 
>> upon it to slow it down (or speed it up, possibly).   Technically, the 
>> fact that the ball rests on the train floor doesn't account for its 
>> continued motion.  Without resisting forces such as air and gravity and 
>> physical obstacles (such as train walls), the ball would roll forever 
>> once put in motion.  Technically.
>>
>> That's my understanding of Newton's First.  If anyone else can clarify, 
>> feel free.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Gary Shelton
>>
>>
>>
>>
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> 


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