Cavers (and I was one) have always been very protective of their locations so having coordinates of "unknown" caves for most anyone that wants it just makes them hate us more. Rich ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Williams To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 7:09 PM Subject: [GeoStL] Re: geocaching gets negative press There's been an ongoing battle with the caving groups too. -----Original Message----- From: geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Eric & Dayna East Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 5:14 PM To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [GeoStL] Re: geocaching gets negative press as a herper (reptile & amphibian lover) I have gotten a lot of grief over geocaching on some of the herp related forums. One guy in particular was worried about this very thing, that we were bringing people out to these "sensitive" areas and ruining them. Eric