Oh yeah the ticks seem to be worse, IMHO. And poison ivy? My DH has gotten it twice so far (really bad the first time) so he isn't really interested in going out with me anymore. Thing is, we both can ID it, but it seems to sneak up on him. One of the I-55 caches (hmm, that reminds me I need to log them) is in a rest area. I was the one that tramped thru the woods, he stayed on the parking lot. HE is the one that got the ticks, not me. Hence my crack about getting ticks on or off asphalt. Luckily they were only on his clothes, hadn't done any damage yet. I've lived in MO most of my life, and haven't really had much of a problem. Maybe I just don't taste as good as some of y'all. <G> Jana Chosenlass 'Stubbing fags out on me tongue. There's an area on your tongue that's quite numb, and you swill saliva onto it before stubbing. It hurts like a bugger if you miss, mind.' ~