[GeoStL] Re: Packwood open again.
- From: Tom Wolpert <tom_wolpert@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2013 06:10:29 -0500
Mass transit only runs on Sundays, May thru October I think. But the Trilogy is
worth the walk!
Tom
On Sep 19, 2013, at 10:13 PM, Susan Ring <susanmring@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> Man, does this bring back memories...
>
> I found these caches with Happy Kraut and Myotis (just think about that) way
> back in 2004. If I remember correctly, when we were done and starting to
> walk back to the car, we came upon the little train that runs out there. We
> were so tired they let us ride back to the parking lot on the train.
>
> Bernie, does that sound about right?
>
> Susan
>
>
>
> On Sep 19, 2013, at 9:29 PM, R. sheffold wrote:
>
>> For those new to caching after 2006, you will find 5 or 6 new caches and I’m
>> sure more will show up, along with the new Munzees that are now there.. The
>> area is located just off the Al Foster trail in Glencoe at the home of the
>> mini RR.(Old State Road and HW 109 near Eureka).
>>
>> Back in 2003 we were asked by the STL County Park rangers (prior to the Al
>> foster trail which was just an old RR right away then) to place some caches
>> in this undeveloped park since it was an area where intruders were digging
>> up the area looking for Indian relics and arrowheads. These 3 caches were
>> there until the end of 2006 when the county lawyers found out about
>> geocaching and decided it was not a safe place for anyone to be because of
>> the steep bluff, hidden holes, old fences. etc. So Glenn archived the 3
>> cache.
>>
>> So now fast forward to Sept. 2013. Now the old Packwood area has a new bike
>> trail leading up to the top of the bluff from the East side, and we have
>> permission to place caches again, and use the area. Only rules are the
>> normal Groundspeak rules and the County Park rules, which means the 528’
>> rule from Groundspeak and the “no ammo boxes or PVC pipe rules from the
>> county. Same as in all the STL county parks.
>>
>> The 3 original caches were called the “Packwood Trilogy, and they were
>> Packwood Estate (GCH97X), Water Water Everywhere... (GCHA60), and Enchanted
>> Forest of Packwood (GCHA5G)
>>
>> These 3 caches were basically just un-archived to keep all the historical
>> logs over the 3 years they were available. Glenn and I went out Tuesday to
>> replace the containers, double-check waypoints, and make minor changes. The
>> cache hidden date was changed from 12/02/2003 to 9/18/2013 or almost 10
>> years ago.
>>
>> So what this means to those cachers who had logged them when originally
>> placed, you will NOT see them as a new cache notification or when running a
>> PQ for new caches since they had already been logged as found. So, all 3
>> have at least one minor change of a WP, calculation, or the final location.
>> Unless you have a great memory or kept really good notes, you will probably
>> need to go through all the steps again anyway to find them so you CAN log
>> them again.
>>
>> That area should make a nice day trip or a group hunt, especially as more
>> caches get placed there.
>>
>> As a warning, some of you may be aware of the locked gate on Old State Road
>> that has a STL County Park sign on it with room for “maybe” 2 cars.in front
>> of the gate, and right next to an old house. DO NOT PARK THERE! The couple
>> living there are very unfriendly and they will yell at you for being next to
>> their house, even though it IS county Park property. Even the rangers who
>> park there in uniform and marked ranger cars get hassled by those people.
>> Back in 2003 on a Sunday when scouting for cache placements, I received a
>> ticket from Wildwood for parking too close to a mailbox. So the park
>> neighbors have not changed.
>>
>> Rich and Glenn
>
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