ok points to ponder are we own property off the abandoned section of the katy trail.their is a cache placed on our property very close to the border of the state park (they own 100' from center of trail outwards).does this mean i would have to get a permit to place a cache on my property/state property.also their are many survey markers along the trail system with numbers on them,if i used this as part of a multi cache would it still be counted as a cache location even though it exists as a permanent site.also since this 6 mile section of trail has been abandoned for 14 years now so basically it shall belong to nobody it is abandoned property after 10 years of deliquency.so is this actually state park areas even though they tried posting the trail this year as state park boundarys.most of the signs and all the trail crossing gates have been removed or destroyed.many more questions may come about as the results come back from this mailing.i wish the state would just leave this 6 miles as natural for just mountain bikers and hikers.they have a 25 mile section for equestrians but no rugged grass trail in a very nice natural area.who cares if the state is bankrupt all it takes is a tractor and 3 blades to maintain this section of treail to fully complete the missouri connection across the state.thanks pntball happy hunting Dave Keiser <dave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Thanks for pointing us to that Rich. Looks pretty much like we expected. However I wonder what will happen with existing caches. The biggest items I noticed that will impact current caches: 1. Only one cache placement per 200 acres. 2. Only a twelve month permit, after which the cache has to be removed. (this has it's pros--after 12 months someone can do a different cache and we all get to revisit the park to find it) I do appreciate that they have a permit system and that they allow geocaching. I thought it was rather nice that they even made accomodations for allowing up to a 5 stage multi-cache. Dave On Tuesday, September 23, 2003, at 10:08 PM, GC-RGS wrote: > Below is the link to the MO. State Parks page which has the new > geocaching policy and permit for the MO. State Parks. > > Barbara Wilson from the DNR, who drafted the policy, will be at our > picnic in October explaining the policy and answering any questions. > > > http://www.mostateparks.com/faq.htm#geocache > > Rich --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software