- I'd compete in a Ladies division, and I guarantee that I won't come close to winning. ;-) Laura Million -----Original Message----- From: geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Sarah Chisholm Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 11:01 AM To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [GeoStL] Re: MOGA 2008 Ideas and Concerns... - IMHO, MOGA wouldn't feel like MOGA if it were set in an urban setting. I'm not against a road rally geocaching event - far from it, it sounds like it would be a hoot! - but it just wouldn't be MOGA. I'd love going back to MTL and loading up the south side of the lake with caches next year. And, if there is a Ladies Division in the Individual Course, I might even compete. I think that a lot of the ladies do not compete because they know that they have NO chance against some of the geocaching machines that compete in the event. Ladies against ladies would bring out more lady competitors. Just MY 2 cents worth :-) Sarah ----- Original Message ---- From: Michael Rogers <mrogers07@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 8:36:57 PM Subject: [GeoStL] MOGA 2008 Ideas and Concerns... - During the awards ceremony at MOGA this year Mike alluded to MOGA 2008. He said one of the ideas of its location could be in St. Louis proper, being held at a few parks simultaneously. While in theory, it may be a neat place to have it, I have some concerns about a few things: 1. To have MOGA at more than one main location could be a logistical nightmare. I haven't been in the planning process for any of these events, granted, but trying to set up events and activites in more than one park could be a pain. 2. How could we have any park to ourselves for the most part? Forest Park, one of the biggest, has the zoo, the Jewel Box, the museum and other attractions. I'm not saying an event couldn't be held there, for example, but the muggle quotient and gawkers would be high. 3. How many caches could you feasibly place in any of the parks? I know Forest Park is big and that would hold many, but to have enough for events you'd have to utilize many parks...not all of which are close by. This leads to... 4. If you were to use different parks for caches in the events, people should not have to drive to other areas as part of the competition. The last thing anyone needs are a bunch of cachers working against the clock and facing St. Louis traffic. That could be the recipe for accidents, and no one wants that. 5. Many people, including some of our friends from Minnestota, don't like the idea of urban caching for MOGA. I'm sure there are a few places with some hills in the area, but for the most part, the St. Louis area cannot compete with the Mark Twain Lakes, Meramecs and Hawns as far as topography. I'm sad to say that some people from Minnesota on their message boards and even some I spoke to at this past MOGA personally have questioned whether they'd even attend an "urban" MOGA. 6. Costs. I am not sure about camping facilities in the St. Louis area, but hotels there are not nearly as cheap as what we had at this past MOGA. This could turn some away. Some prefer camping to hotels anyway...I don't know how this could or would play out. That's about enough of the concerns...so how about some ideas? 1. Why not have the next MOGA in a previously-used spot? Meramec is a beautiful place and so is Hawn...is there something against using an old area in lieu of a new area? 2. Have you thought of using an area in the Ozarks? Lake of the Ozarks? Or, perhaps, in the St. Francois area in Sam A. Baker State park? 3. Perhaps a poll could be set up to vote on locations... Well, I have more ideas, but I am having writer's block so I might post more later. I just wanted to shoot this out to y'all. Thanks again for a great MOGA 2007! -Michael **************************************** For List Info or To make _ANY_ changes, including unsubscribing from this list, click -----> //www.freelists.org/list/geocaching Missouri Caches Scheduled to be Archived http://tinyurl.com/87cqw **************************************** For List Info or To make _ANY_ changes, including unsubscribing from this list, click -----> //www.freelists.org/list/geocaching Missouri Caches Scheduled to be Archived http://tinyurl.com/87cqw **************************************** For List Info or To make _ANY_ changes, including unsubscribing from this list, click -----> //www.freelists.org/list/geocaching Missouri Caches Scheduled to be Archived http://tinyurl.com/87cqw