[GeoStL] Re: I long for the early days of caching! RE: Re: Congrats
- From: "Mike Griffin" <griff@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 23:02:41 -0500
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I don't think you can blame it on Nashville. Light poles and guardrails were
well under way in Chicago before Nashville. When I was talking with Team
Snook he made 2 good points; 1) Everyone remembers the first light pole or
guardrail as a cool hide and 2) everyone caches and plays the game in their
own way.
Just because *WE* don't agree with a particular style of caching doesn't
mean it should be banned or cracked down on.
I think there are a lot of disabled people that appreciate playing the game
in a parking lot as much as you like a hike to a scenic area.
I have always said, "If you don't like a particular hide, don't do it!"
It is hard when it is always about the numbers.. When I quit logging caches
last November, I realized that all along I was logging for the wrong
reasons. I wanted my totals to increase and soon realized I was losing the
real reason I got into caching to begin with. I was caching for numbers but
not for fun. Don't get me wrong, there is nothing more fun than riding
around with 2 or 3 good friends finding caches all day. However, when it
came to logging, it was more like a job than anything else. I hated logging
caches!!
Now, I log events, great caches that made an impression on me and caches
that need fixing up.. I would gladly do Titus Hollow over and over again and
each time log my thoughts and journey in the log book. Great caches should
be visited more than once! My Favorite Tree cache has several logs in the
log book where people have visited multiple times to bring a friend.
I say, "Cache and Let Cache!" I think it is noteworthy that someone can find
300+ caches in a day! If they had fun doing it, more power to them!
Mike
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[mailto:geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jim Bensman
Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 9:02 PM
To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [GeoStL] I long for the early days of caching! RE: Re: Congrats
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I'll admit, I have always been competitive about numbers-but having fun was
more important. However, I have been getting really frustrated lately with
the quality of caches. If it is where you can get 400 in a day, it is way
over the line. In the early days we were also competitive on the numbers,
but we had more fun competing. It was about finding high quality caches.
Now it is about lifting a lamppost or throwing down a hundred or so
containers. In the past, caches would be in neat places, a nice walk, or a
devilish challenge. You did not have lamppost caches, guardrail caches,
playground caches, throwaway series, etc. Cache hiders would not hide a
cache somewhere just because it was possible to hide one there. You would
not have to look in unsafe places. You did not have puzzle caches. Well
there were some mistakes like "locationless caches" and the yellow jeep.
It was much more fun back then. I remember all the times we would have
SLAGA group hunts and go out and find a couple of caches and everyone had a
great time. This was much more fun than going from one lamppost to the next
playground to the guard rail. There are still many great caches and series
that come out - but it is hard to separate them from all the lame caches.
Its still fun, but it was more fun in the early days. I am a conservative
when it comes to caching. It took me 2 years to find my first 400 caches.
Now you can find 400 in one day? All I can say is I had hundreds of times
more fun finding my first 400 than anyone could have finding 400 in one day.
I blame it on Nashville. This is where the change from quality to quantity
began. I went to GeoWoodstock in 2004 and was horrified with the way it was
in Nashville (it was like everywhere is now). In 2004, the STL area was
still all quality caches. So I decided to make a statement about it with my
Nashville Decoy cache:
http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?guid=233e8553-208b-4860-b3
b9-21d9e6340b54
GCKKF0
I set up the cahce as a statement I wanted the STL area to continue to be a
quality cache area and a swipe at Nashville. Take a look at what I said on
the cache page and you can see I lost the war. When cachers from Nashville
came in town and found it, they were really upset with me. But they won
out.
I think the balance between numbers and quality is way out of wack and I
wish gc.com would crack down on some of this stuff.
Jim Bensman
"Nature Bats Last"
> -----Original Message-----
> From: geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:geocaching-
> bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mike Griffin
> Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 5:55 PM
> To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [GeoStL] Re: Congrats
>
> -
> It was 16 hours and they had a power run. Now that Groundspeak is
> allowing
> power trails, everyone is setting them up. 30 miles of road with a
> cache
> every .1 is 300 caches. Someone could do those really easy. Since they
> were
> outside Denver, it was a breeze to get them all done in a single day.
>
> There are several runs in the US where you could get 400 caches in a
> day.
> Don't be so naïve people! These will be all too common. In my opinion,
> it's
> not about how many you get. It's about how much fun you have doing it!
>
> Mike
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Arlene Jones
> Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 1:59 PM
> To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [GeoStL] Re: Congrats
>
> -
> I sat here doing the same math. I have to say that I am in awe of the
> abilities. 2 1/2 minutes to get from one cache to the next, find it,
> and
> sign the log? Heck it takes me that long to get the log out of some
> caches!
> I agree, we need a workshop! So just who will our speakers be?
>
> > From: gmalibby@xxxxxxxxxx
> > To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [GeoStL] Re: Congrats
> > Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 13:16:21 -0500
> >
> > -
> > I am always amazed at the epic numbers of caches often found by
> groups of
> > cachers. Does this mean that four cachers each saw 311 caches and
> moved
> > together from one to the next (a distance of at least .1 of a mile)?
> That
> is
> > an average of one every 2.5 minutes. Can you really move 4 cachers
> that
> > fast? And that leaves no room for potty breaks. All guys? They must
> have
> > been in IL at Muther's caches. Or was someone bringing them all by a
> central
> > location?
> >
> > Like I say. Amazed! I think we need a workshop on how to do this
> miraculous
> > task.
> >
> > Maybe like you say it is only a rumor.
> >
> > GmaLibby
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "john leenerts" <johnnybgood1@xxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 12:19 PM
> > Subject: [GeoStL] Congrats
> >
> >
> > -
> > Rumor has it a group of four SLAGA members found 311 caches in about
> 13
> > hours.
> >
> >
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