[GeoStL] Re: I long for the early days of caching! RE: Re: Congrats
- From: "Bernie Ver Hey" <Happykraut@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 09:31:18 -0500
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Congrats to the other three. Mike, great job in describing our trip. I'm not
very good in writing long emails. Certain people have me so upset, that it
is better to bite my lip. When we set the 140 record and then the 151
record. He couldn't get out fast enough to break those records. Now it is a
whole different sour grape story. The bottom line- we had one fantastic trip
from beginning to end. Bernie
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[mailto:geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mike Maryan
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 7:59 AM
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Subject: [GeoStL] Re: I long for the early days of caching! RE: Re: Congrats
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I long for the days when someone made a great accomplishment of their own
others in the group congratulated them for their accomplishment, and didn't
go on their own rant about this and that! Yes I was one of the four. If
you don't like doing the numbers run then DON't! If you are not having fun
caching like you did in the past, then quit. Considering you were not on
the trip maybe you didn't have fun! BUT I DID!!! It was the best caching
trip I ever had!!! I had fun with 3 of my friends and we swapped caching
stories during the whole trip! Not only did we find several lamposts and
film canisters on signs, we did several well quality hidden caches, even a 4
difficulty 2 terrain! Several of the caches had a DIDG GUY or RGS feel to
them, we had over 15 DNF's, and even helped replaced 3 caches that had been
destroyed!!! So next time you have Congrats in the title of the subject of
your email, maybe you would congratulate the people doing it!!!
Mike "TheMadChef"
By the way congrats to the other 3 cachers who went with me and had fun!!!
> From: junkmailno@xxxxxxxxxxx
> To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [GeoStL] I long for the early days of caching! RE: Re: Congrats
> Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 21:01:52 -0500
>
> -
> I'll admit, I have always been competitive about numbers-but having fun
was
> more important. However, I have been getting really frustrated lately with
> the quality of caches. If it is where you can get 400 in a day, it is way
> over the line. In the early days we were also competitive on the numbers,
> but we had more fun competing. It was about finding high quality caches.
> Now it is about lifting a lamppost or throwing down a hundred or so
> containers. In the past, caches would be in neat places, a nice walk, or a
> devilish challenge. You did not have lamppost caches, guardrail caches,
> playground caches, throwaway series, etc. Cache hiders would not hide a
> cache somewhere just because it was possible to hide one there. You would
> not have to look in unsafe places. You did not have puzzle caches. Well
> there were some mistakes like "locationless caches" and the yellow jeep.
>
> It was much more fun back then. I remember all the times we would have
> SLAGA group hunts and go out and find a couple of caches and everyone had
a
> great time. This was much more fun than going from one lamppost to the
next
> playground to the guard rail. There are still many great caches and series
> that come out - but it is hard to separate them from all the lame caches.
> Its still fun, but it was more fun in the early days. I am a conservative
> when it comes to caching. It took me 2 years to find my first 400 caches.
> Now you can find 400 in one day? All I can say is I had hundreds of times
> more fun finding my first 400 than anyone could have finding 400 in one
day.
>
> I blame it on Nashville. This is where the change from quality to quantity
> began. I went to GeoWoodstock in 2004 and was horrified with the way it
was
> in Nashville (it was like everywhere is now). In 2004, the STL area was
> still all quality caches. So I decided to make a statement about it with
my
> Nashville Decoy cache:
>
> http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?guid#3e8553-208b-4860-b3
> b9-21d9e6340b54
>
> GCKKF0
>
> I set up the cahce as a statement I wanted the STL area to continue to be
a
> quality cache area and a swipe at Nashville. Take a look at what I said on
> the cache page and you can see I lost the war. When cachers from Nashville
> came in town and found it, they were really upset with me. But they won
> out.
>
> I think the balance between numbers and quality is way out of wack and I
> wish gc.com would crack down on some of this stuff.
>
>
> Jim Bensman
> "Nature Bats Last"
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:geocaching-
> > bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mike Griffin
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 5:55 PM
> > To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [GeoStL] Re: Congrats
> >
> > -
> > It was 16 hours and they had a power run. Now that Groundspeak is
> > allowing
> > power trails, everyone is setting them up. 30 miles of road with a
> > cache
> > every .1 is 300 caches. Someone could do those really easy. Since they
> > were
> > outside Denver, it was a breeze to get them all done in a single day.
> >
> > There are several runs in the US where you could get 400 caches in a
> > day.
> > Don't be so naïve people! These will be all too common. In my opinion,
> > it's
> > not about how many you get. It's about how much fun you have doing it!
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Arlene Jones
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 1:59 PM
> > To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [GeoStL] Re: Congrats
> >
> > -
> > I sat here doing the same math. I have to say that I am in awe of the
> > abilities. 2 1/2 minutes to get from one cache to the next, find it,
> > and
> > sign the log? Heck it takes me that long to get the log out of some
> > caches!
> > I agree, we need a workshop! So just who will our speakers be?
> >
> > > From: gmalibby@xxxxxxxxxx
> > > To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: [GeoStL] Re: Congrats
> > > Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 13:16:21 -0500
> > >
> > > -
> > > I am always amazed at the epic numbers of caches often found by
> > groups of
> > > cachers. Does this mean that four cachers each saw 311 caches and
> > moved
> > > together from one to the next (a distance of at least .1 of a mile)?
> > That
> > is
> > > an average of one every 2.5 minutes. Can you really move 4 cachers
> > that
> > > fast? And that leaves no room for potty breaks. All guys? They must
> > have
> > > been in IL at Muther's caches. Or was someone bringing them all by a
> > central
> > > location?
> > >
> > > Like I say. Amazed! I think we need a workshop on how to do this
> > miraculous
> > > task.
> > >
> > > Maybe like you say it is only a rumor.
> > >
> > > GmaLibby
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "john leenerts" <johnnybgood1@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: <geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 12:19 PM
> > > Subject: [GeoStL] Congrats
> > >
> > >
> > > -
> > > Rumor has it a group of four SLAGA members found 311 caches in about
> > 13
> > > hours.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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