I think the 5 is ONLY for specialized equipment. Seems the hike is a fairly good one which is way above the 1.5 he gave it.. I still don't understand how difficulty would be a 5. I mean, it's a huge friggin cave.. How difficult could that be to find? In any case, I am going to do it.. Thanks! Mike Brawny Bear From: geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Susan Ring Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 9:18 AM To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [GeoStL] Re: GC22Y58 I find it amusing that the difficulty is 5 for kayaking and lower for hiking, even though I understand how the rating system works (specialized equipment). But you KNOW that on a hot humid July day the kayaking would be a lot more pleasant :-) Susan PS it's looking less likely that I'll be able to make it with you guys On Jun 22, 2012, at 7:53 AM, Mike Griffin wrote: In the end, it still shows as a 5/5. :-). Mike Griffin Delivery Manager State Farm Account 314-308-0916 Cell Sent from my iPhone On Jun 22, 2012, at 6:48 AM, Harry Halladay <harrycarolynh@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: Mike, Did you notice that on the cache page that *RATING SYSTEM NOTE* This cache's rating will be different depending on what mode of travel you will be using. Difficulty rating: Paddling 5 Hiking 1-2 Terrain rating: Paddling 5 Hiking 3.25 Hiking doesn't seem to be a 5/5. Looks like you have to canoe/kayak to be a 5/5. _____ From: Mike Griffin <brawnybear@xxxxxxxxx> To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sun, June 10, 2012 11:12:42 AM Subject: [GeoStL] GC22Y58 Does anyone have a saved track or route for Cave Spring on The Current River? I want the hiking track and not a canoe or kayak track. The link is http://coord.info/GC22Y58 Thanks! Also, if anyone wants to venture out for this 5/5 EC, I will be planning it in July.. Brawny Bear Mike